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Old 09-16-2003, 08:52 PM   #11
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Ahh...back to the Franken bashing, eh Caldolf?

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Good point but unless you are right others can't be wrong and why have an opinion if you think it might be wrong?

Not much has changed with the fate of heretics because, at least as I see it, many of them have gathered so much sola scriptura brushwood that it keeps them tied to the foot of the cross where they burn with the desire to ascend but just can't because their sin nature is holding them down.
Riiiight...
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Sorry, Toto, I don't think you're Spong-worthy. You're not patient enough to absorb his wisdom, or soak up his insights.
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All the benefits of your average church, without the odious indoctrination?
But what are the benefits of your average church if its not to get rid of my sins and get me right with god and see to it that I get into heaven?
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Ok, fun's over. This thread has too much of a sense of humour, so off to GRD. (Also, it doesn't fit in BC&H)

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But what are the benefits of your average church if its not to get rid of my sins and get me right with god and see to it that I get into heaven?
You beat me to it. Here are the other supposed benefits that I see and my responses thereto:

1. A church gives you the opportunity to socialize with like-minded people. Actually, a social club is better for that, and you don't have to play church.

2. A church gives you the opportunity to help others. You'd be far better off volunteering at a real social-services organization, and again, you don't have to play church.

3. You do it because it's what's done. I know people who let that principle influence their behavior, but I'm not one of them.
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Benefit # 4:

It pacifies your wife or mom.
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Old 09-17-2003, 06:30 AM   #18
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You don't really have to go to any church to be a Christian.

Supposed to pray in a closet you know.

Of course there is that part about "when 2 or more gather-----" ---------but that just means to me between 2 and 5 people. 10 people would be way overkill.

Go to church if you enjoy the ceremony---I do. But it is not necessary at all.

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And I don't see any point in spending $24.95 for a book where Spong tells me what I already know.
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Old 09-17-2003, 10:27 AM   #19
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I could not believe that anyone who has read this book would be so foolish as to proclaim that the Bible in every literal word was the divinely inspired, inerrant word of God. Have these people simply not read the text? Are they hopelessly misinformed? Is there a different Bible? Are they blinded by a combination of ego needs and naivete? ---Bishop John Shelby Spong
Spong reminds me of a character in one of those old movies who is aboard a dirigible that is loosing gas. They run around like madmen tossing everything over the side that they can in a vain attempt to stay airborne.
He has come to the same conclusions that the majority of Atheists here reached from studying Christianity. But rather than take that last step he is still emotionally (and financially) tied to Christianity.

Lighten the load quick!!! Toss those Fundamentalists and Roman Catholics overboard!!! Jettison the Old Testament. Save only enough of the New Testament to stand on and deep six the rest. We have to stay up, man! Throw out the substance and keep only the airy metaphors.

It's pathetic looking at the retired bishop. He is fully aware that his religion doesn't work but he clings to it anyway.
Twenty five dollars is still twenty five dollars after all. If he can't sell a working religion he can at least get a few bucks selling the parts for scrap.
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Riiiight...
Well some of them bundle their brushwood to soar through midheaven but when they crash they usually end up at the foot of the cross where they still smolder in the aftermath of their journey.
 
 

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