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Old 06-10-2010, 11:16 AM   #1
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Interesting day I had on the Metro. There was several people on the train causing a ruckus and quite frankly disturbing the riders with their praise jesus and bigoted hatred towards an obviosly gay couple. It pissed me off something fierce. All their hate speech about adam and steve and the usual burn in hell crap. So I politely walked over to them which caused them to stop saying anything and anounced myself as a Witch. I told them "I am a Witch. by order of your god you must kill me now." "Exodus 22:18 says, "Suffer not a witch to live."
They looked at me blankly
Again I looked at them very calmly and said "your god ORDERS you to kill me I have outed to you that i am a witch and have divined."
They were shocked sensless.
So once more I told them "Iam a witch and saying it thrice you must know it be true for I have so bound myslf to the truth as required by the Fae." thier Eyes got super wide and they clutched their bibles so tight I could see their knuckles turning white. Then doors opened up and they all nearly killed each other leaving the train. The gay couple looked at me with what I could only interpret as gratitude. I sat back down and enjoyed my Harry Dresden Summer Knight paperback.
I hate bullies in all forms. It was funny to see these people spouting fire and brimstone be turned into quiet church mice since they were lacking any tesiclular fortitude to do what their bible actually says. I am not sure why i did it but it came to my while my reading was being interupted (the Dreden files is about a wizard dective and are a great series). Also keep in mind I am a HUGE man at 6'5" and well over 300 so I am pretty confident no one in their group was going to attempt anything, most of them are cowards to the core anyways which is why i think they are bamboozled by such nonsense. Yes I took a risk but it pretty much showed how week their god really is. Of course they probably will go to church to night claiming they met a true Witch (which i am not I just play one on the Metro):devil1:.
But it basically shows push come to shove most if not all of these people today are more afraid of secular laws then they are of gods law.
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Is it legal where you live to harass and threaten people like these crazies did?
Isn't there a communication device to speak to the driver or conductor?

I would not by myself confront any individual let alone a group who were acting so violently and irrationally. Lucky they didn't take you up on your offer.
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Is it legal where you live to harass and threaten people like these crazies did?
Isn't there a communication device to speak to the driver or conductor?

I would not by myself confront any individual let alone a group who were acting so violently and irrationally. Lucky they didn't take you up on your offer.
Actually yes it would be "protected speach" in the bible belt here. Basically you can do anything to gays as they are the new group you can hate.
No you cant call a conductor as they do not exist on the metor just a person who drives the train and most of the intercoms do not work and even if they did it would result in Nada. You might get a transit cop but good luck most of the time they do nothing.
Well I am not totally foolish had they tried i was fairly confident that they would have learned a lesson or two on hand to hand combat techniques, did i say i hate bullies there is a reason I joined the Marine Corps . But for the most part they were your typical fred phelps types used to intimidating people do to their group.
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WV, that is a great idea. I may try it myself. hehehe
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Good for you WV! You are very brave and kind. If I had a medal to bestow, it would go to you!
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The verse in question may actually be referring to a poisoner rather than a witch. Josephus writes;

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34. Let no one of the Israelites keep any poison (29) that may cause death, or any other harm; but if he be caught with it, let him be put to death, and suffer the very same mischief that he would have brought upon them for whom the poison was prepared.
http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/t...Note_ANT_4.29a
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The verse in question may actually be referring to a poisoner rather than a witch. Josephus writes;

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34. Let no one of the Israelites keep any poison (29) that may cause death, or any other harm; but if he be caught with it, let him be put to death, and suffer the very same mischief that he would have brought upon them for whom the poison was prepared.
http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/t...Note_ANT_4.29a
This was something in the US Bible Belt so these people would use the "literal interpretation" of the King James version which clearly states "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." You could be right (though that would seem to fall under just murderers and thou shalt not kill is already covered so the poisoner explanation seems a little shaky to me), but that would require a "non-literal" interpretation of the Bible that Fundie Christians supposedly reject.
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Exodus 22:18

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In the original Hebrew manuscript, the author used the word m'khashepah to describe the person who should be killed. The word means a woman who uses spoken spells to harm others - e.g. causing their death or loss of property. Clearly "evil sorceress" or "woman who does evil magic" would be the most accurate phrases in today's English usage for this verse.
That is from religioustolerance.org, which is pro-pagan and pro-tolerance, so they may be exaggerating the requirement of doing "evil."

This source rejects the "poisoner" translation:

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Question: I have heard that the passage in Exodus which reads "Suffer not a witch to live" was a mistranslation and that instead of "witch" it should have read "poisoner." Is this true?

Answer: No, it's not true. The King James Bible is absolutely correct. The words in their widest use simply refer to a witch or a sorcerer. And the ancient languages Akkadian and Ugaritic prove this. Here are two commonly used sources that verify this:

Strong’s Concordance
kashaph {kaw-shaf'}, Strong’s number 3784.

“Meaning: 1) to practice witchcraft or sorcery, use witchcraft 1a) sorcerer, sorceress
Origin: a primitive root; properly, to whisper a spell, i.e. to inchant or practise magic"

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Also keep in mind I am a HUGE man at 6'5" and well over 300 ....
This is also why animal rights activists throw paint on ladies' fur coats rather than biker's leather jackets.

Hey, speaking of the Fae, just curious, how many times did you read the name of Toot's little fae friend, Ellidee, who blinked without speaking, before realizing that she was named after an LED indicator?
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Good on ya.
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