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Gothic_J · 08-19-2003, 02:30 PM

what is the qualifier for 18+ stores? does the bible meet them?

would a similar book with such stories be allowed to 1st graders?

Mageth · 08-19-2003, 02:43 PM

Have you ever seen Children's Bibles? Most of them are sanitized beyond recognition. Don't want to frighten the wee ones, after all; teach them all the love and kisses before exposing them to the nasty bits (if they're ever so exposed).

Gothic_J · 08-19-2003, 02:58 PM

yeah, I had one for a while. I was so surprised to learn that goliath was beheaded, *too*.

being 7, I thot that was the coolest thing ever.

I think, after I finish my other projects, I will see if I can get bibles restrained to such stores. it sounds like a delightful hobby.

Peter Kirby · 08-19-2003, 03:23 PM

Is this a moral question? I will send it over there.

best,
Peter Kirby

Arctish · 08-19-2003, 05:55 PM

[]Originally posted by Gothic_J [/i]

I think, after I finish my other projects, I will see if I can get bibles restrained to such stores. it sounds like a delightful hobby. [/B][/QUOTE]

Please, please, please let me help you!:notworthy

Loren Pechtel · 08-19-2003, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by Gothic_J
what is the qualifier for 18+ stores? does the bible meet them?

would a similar book with such stories be allowed to 1st graders?

The Bible has textual depictions that would get it banned outright in some places. Canada can be picky about incest, for example.

Gothic_J · 08-19-2003, 10:10 PM

the 1st amendments debate would be delightful.

youd have fundies fighting for religious expression on the same side as hustler who wants sexual expression. on the opposite course, people who want their children protected from explicit material.

Arctish · 08-20-2003, 05:06 PM

Seriously though, I have been giving this some thought. I am opposed to most forms of censorship, and even though I am no great fan of the Bible I do not believe in preventing people (even underage ones) from reading it. It is the responsibility of parents to monitor their children's reading material and to decide what is appropriate for them to learn. I would support a law that required children 13 and under to be accompanied by a parent of legal guardian when purchaseng a Bible, due to the violence and explicit sexuality it contains, but that's it.

Peter Kirby · 08-20-2003, 08:07 PM

This is pointless. Children don't buy bibles. Parents (or sometimes other adults) give the bible to them.

best,
Peter Kirby

Magus55 · 08-20-2003, 10:27 PM

Ok, so you find the Bible offensive enough to limit it to adults, yet people are posting in a pornography thread where anyone should be able to buy and read pornography, and some people have no problem with parents giving their children pornography? Society has reached an all time low...

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08-19-2003, 02:43 PM	#2
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Have you ever seen Children's Bibles? Most of them are sanitized beyond recognition. Don't want to frighten the wee ones, after all; teach them all the love and kisses before exposing them to the nasty bits (if they're ever so exposed).

08-19-2003, 02:58 PM	#3
Gothic_J Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 1,290	yeah, I had one for a while. I was so surprised to learn that goliath was beheaded, too. being 7, I thot that was the coolest thing ever. I think, after I finish my other projects, I will see if I can get bibles restrained to such stores. it sounds like a delightful hobby.

08-19-2003, 03:23 PM	#4
Peter Kirby Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: the reliquary of Ockham's razor Posts: 4,035	Is this a moral question? I will send it over there. best, Peter Kirby

08-19-2003, 05:55 PM	#5
Arctish Veteran Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alaska Posts: 4,540	[]Originally posted by Gothic_J [/i] I think, after I finish my other projects, I will see if I can get bibles restrained to such stores. it sounds like a delightful hobby. [/B][/QUOTE] Please, please, please let me help you!:notworthy

08-19-2003, 10:10 PM	#7
Gothic_J Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 1,290	the 1st amendments debate would be delightful. youd have fundies fighting for religious expression on the same side as hustler who wants sexual expression. on the opposite course, people who want their children protected from explicit material.

08-20-2003, 05:06 PM	#8
Arctish Veteran Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alaska Posts: 4,540	Seriously though, I have been giving this some thought. I am opposed to most forms of censorship, and even though I am no great fan of the Bible I do not believe in preventing people (even underage ones) from reading it. It is the responsibility of parents to monitor their children's reading material and to decide what is appropriate for them to learn. I would support a law that required children 13 and under to be accompanied by a parent of legal guardian when purchaseng a Bible, due to the violence and explicit sexuality it contains, but that's it.

08-20-2003, 08:07 PM	#9
Peter Kirby Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: the reliquary of Ockham's razor Posts: 4,035	This is pointless. Children don't buy bibles. Parents (or sometimes other adults) give the bible to them. best, Peter Kirby

08-20-2003, 10:27 PM	#10
Magus55 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 7,204	Ok, so you find the Bible offensive enough to limit it to adults, yet people are posting in a pornography thread where anyone should be able to buy and read pornography, and some people have no problem with parents giving their children pornography? Society has reached an all time low...

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