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Postcard73 · 02-17-2004, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Mageth
At least his childhood training in carpentry came in handy:

"If Jesus was a carpenter, then what did he charge for bookshelves?"
-Woody Allen

spacedOut · 02-17-2004, 10:36 AM

If you asked most Christians if humans could kill God, they would say no.

If you asked the same Christians if Jesus was God, they would say yes.

So, just how did the Jews (or any other human for that matter) "kill" Jesus?

Zucco · 02-17-2004, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by orpheus last chant
What makes me even more confused is the idea that Jesus died... What exactly was the biggest sacrifice? "well, duh, he gave his life for us"Yeah, for a day and a half...big. deal .

Not to mention that there were two other people at the same time that were sacrificing the same thing. And what about all the other thousands of people who were crucified and didn't get to ascend to heaven? They are presumably in hell for eternity, right? Now that's a sacrifice.

RUmike · 02-17-2004, 03:02 PM

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How thankful we should be to his Satanic Majesty. He opened for us the gates of Paradise and made it possible for us to obtain eternal life. Without Satan, without Judas, not a single human being could have become an angel of light. All would have been wingless devils in the prison of flame. In Jerusalem, to the extent of his power, Satan repaired the wreck and ruin he had wrought in the Garden of Eden.
- Robert Ingersoll

The other day I said something to that effect to my fundamentalist Christian friend (who I'm dorming with next year!), that he should really be thanking the devil, and he practically flipped out until I explained it to him, at which time he still didn't agree, but couldn't say why I was wrong.

And Ingersoll again, on the "enormity" of Jesus' sacrifice (I can never get enough of this guy):

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If he was, in fact, God, he knew there was no such thing as death. He knew that what we called death was but the eternal opening of the golden gates of everlasting joy; and it took no heroism to face a death that was eternal life.

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02-17-2004, 10:36 AM	#12
spacedOut Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Heart of Dixie Posts: 104	If you asked most Christians if humans could kill God, they would say no. If you asked the same Christians if Jesus was God, they would say yes. So, just how did the Jews (or any other human for that matter) "kill" Jesus?

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