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Dave31 · 05-27-2009, 11:34 AM

Here's a blog I thought some here would appreciate:

Is Jesus a Myth?

http://tbknews.blogspot.com/2009/05/is-jesus-myth.html

God Fearing Atheist · 05-27-2009, 11:39 AM

How did I guess that this post would have something to do with Acharya S?

:facepalm:

Toto · 05-27-2009, 12:25 PM

Why would we appreciate an extended advertisement for Acharya S's books, along with some embarrassingly adulatory emails of appreciation?

Of course Jesus is a myth. The unsolved questions are whether there was a historical person behind the myth, and how that myth developed.

storytime · 05-27-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

Why would we appreciate an extended advertisement for Acharya S's books, along with some embarrassingly adulatory emails of appreciation?

Of course Jesus is a myth. The unsolved questions are whether there was a historical person behind the myth, and how that myth developed.

I think Mountainman mentioned Constantine. :devil3:

Dave31 · 05-27-2009, 01:38 PM

So, nothing really to offer, just more typical personal attacks on Acharya without even actually reading the blog. An "extended advertisement?" So any time someone wants to discuss their books - which they've spent years researching and writing - it's an "advertisement" now is it? Why don't you actually READ her work instead of just throwing out ad homs trying to dissuade others from reading it? If you'd actually read her work, you'd know the arguments as to "whether there was a historical person behind the myth, and how the myth developed." And what makes her supporters' comments "embarrasingly adulatory?" Should people only post vicious attacks on her, like people do here? This is very disappointing Toto, because you used to actually be more fair minded. I have to wonder if the mindless pile-on attacks here aren't misogynistic in nature and jealousy based. Why wouldn't Acharya want people to read her work, when she gets great reviews like the following, such as for the book in question, "who Was Jesus?"

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"Divine Acharya -

"I'm proud and privileged to be part of this book! Thanks so much for the opportunity!"

"Who Was Jesus? is a fine work, characterized by your unique ability to spot neglected implications and aspects of debates..."

- Bob

Robert M. Price, Ph.D
The Pre-Nicene New Testament

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"I've known people with triple Ph.D's who haven't come close to the scholarship here."

"I think I've read every popular alternative theory about Jesus that has come down the pike--with Who Was Jesus I was very impressed.

"This book gives me pause for serious thought."

Pastor David Bruce, M.Div
North Park Seminary, Chicago
HollywoodJesus.com

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"I can recommend your work whole-heartedly!"

"D.M. Murdock, aka 'Acharya S,' has written a really fine introduction to the problem of the Historical Jesus. She couches everything in the most basic terms, comprehensible to the layman, and lays out the problem and all the issues in a both really readable and digestible form.

"Her charts are insightful and extremely useful and presented in such a way as to make things immediately plausible to the general reader.

"I can recommend her work whole-heartedly for anyone on a world-wide basis who really wants to know what is at stake in approaching and coming to terms with the real person behind the literary image provided by those who created the story of 'Jesus.'"

Robert H. Eisenman, Ph.D
James the Brother of Jesus and
The New Testament Code
RobertEisenman.com

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"I loved this book. It is absolutely superb in every way, from the eloquence of the writing to the integrity of the scholarship. This book should be required reading in every American classroom...."

"Ms. Murdock is one of only a tiny number of scholars with the richly diverse academic background (and the necessary courage) to adequately address the question of whether Jesus Christ truly existed as a walking-talking figure in first-century Palestine. This question, and many others related to New Testament reliability, are directly confronted and satisfyingly answered in Who Was Jesus?

"My personal recommendation is that Who Was Jesus? should be the first book purchased and studied by anyone, atheist or true believer, who wants to debate Jesus' existence and the Bible's veracity.... You should therefore make this book priority reading even over The God Delusion, God is Not Great and other excellent but, in my opinion, less important books than Murdock's....

"My very favorite chapter began on page 139: 'Questions About The Gospel Story.' If the battle between atheism and Christianity may be described as a philosophical and theological war, then this chapter provides your invincible arsenal of weapons of mass destruction....

"Murdock has stated that she doesn’t tell her readers what to believe: She just presents the evidence. Perhaps so. But the evidence she presents is so compelling and so skillfully argued that the conclusion, it seems to me, is inescapable: Christianity is merely another ancient mythology, like Greek or Roman mythology. Murdock has devastatingly checkmated her theologically enslaved opponents in this debate...

"To summarize: D.M. Murdock's Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of The Christ is unquestionably one of the finest and most enjoyable books I've ever read."

"It is thorough and scholarly, yet pleasurably provides invaluable knowledge on the most riveting of all subjects...."

Read more...

David Mills
Atheist Universe
DavidMills.net

:huh:

Toto · 05-27-2009, 02:07 PM

Dave - this is a discussion board, not a bulletin board for ads. What is it that you want to discuss?

I think that many here would agree that Jesus is a myth and there is no historical core left when you peel the onion, and that Murdoch's latest book but not many would agree that Diane Murdoch has solved all the historical problems.

And what is this all about???

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Originally Posted by Truth Be Known blog

Indeed, we are left with the conclusion that the mythical figure of "Jesus Christ" was largely contrived in order to raise the Jewish religion and scriptures to the forefront of religious ideologies, to fulfill the biblical "prophecy" that the Jews are the "chosen people," that their nation is the "Holy Land" and that their tribal writings represent "God's Word."

with a quote from a Jewish writer from 1928 that is reprinted on anti-Semitic web sites under the caption "One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt."

???

God Fearing Atheist · 05-27-2009, 04:20 PM

Speaking of Acharya and anti-semites....

Toto · 05-27-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by God Fearing Atheist

Speaking of Acharya and anti-semites....

"Diversity, whether of people, cultures or religions, ultimately leads to conflict and death."

:constern02:

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Although raised a Christian, Acharya does not subscribe to any particular religion, nor is she a hardcore "atheist."

Thank god(ess) for that.

thedistillers · 05-27-2009, 06:04 PM

You've all been fooled. Aquinas invented Christianity.

GakuseiDon · 05-27-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thedistillers

You've all been fooled. Aquinas invented Christianity.

No, it was the Order of Melchizedek! Acharya talks about them in her blog and her book "Suns of God".

Dave, Acharya writes in her blog:

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Regardless of shrill cries of "racism," in the first place Islam is NOT a race. Secondly, what Griffin here is reciting are FACTS. And as far as I'm concerned these FACTS need to be recited in order to prevent the utter destruction of human civilization.

But, wouldn't the "Order of Melchizedek" step in before that happens? Or are they behind all this? As Acharya writes here:
http://www.truthbeknown.com/aliens.htm

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In addition, it is very wise to keep in mind that, while it appears the various world's governments are covering up the UFO/alien phenomenon, it is also clear that someone in "the government" is using the phenomenon to manipulate the masses in some bizarre and ungainly manner...

Vallee's book also asks, "Is there an international UFO conspiracy? Are human programmers manipulating the UFO phenomenon?" To these questions, the late, great Jim Keith answers "yes," in his book Saucers of the Illuminati, which reveals that, indeed, human puppetmasters are behind much of the phenomenon. Keith recounts Vallee's work:

"A remarkable UFO group was contacted by Jacques Vallee in Paris, France. The group is called the Order of Melchizedek, and it uses the Star of David for its emblem, and for its program espouses a one world government and the doing away with money and religion..."

In this case, it is obvious that the same old terrestrial powerbrokers are up to their old tricks. The Order of Melchizedek, in fact, is named in the Bible as the highest priesthood, of which Abraham and Jesus are made priests under Melchizedek.

Perhaps there will be a Battle Royale between the Muslims and our human puppetmasters... or has the battle already been won???

:constern01: :huh:

Acharya doesn't appear to believe that aliens are visiting the earth, but she sees that there are people in the "government or private sector who have used it to manipulate and play with the masses". Dave, do you have any more information on the "Order of Melchizedek"? Are they active in the world today? If not, who are the "human puppetmasters"?

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Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Why would we appreciate an extended advertisement for Acharya S's books, along with some embarrassingly adulatory emails of appreciation? Of course Jesus is a myth. The unsolved questions are whether there was a historical person behind the myth, and how that myth developed.

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