Sheshbazzar

The acronym itself? Honestly, I don't know. Could have been a long time, or could have been invented in response to claims about a certain individual.
Consider that Psalms 9:5, 69:28 and 109:6-15 referring to the 'blotting out' of the names and memories of the wicked reflect on the concept of this 'blotting out' as having been very early, whether a specific acronym was employed or not.
(The practice of deliberately obliberating of the names of despised individuals was a long established ANE custom viz. Akhenaten c. 1300 BCE)

As it it stands, the acronym does seem an obvious play on the Hebrew/Aramaic name of a certain infamous, although possibly fictional, convicted Jewish criminal who was reported to have been תלה 'talah' -'hung' upon a tree'.





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la70119

Christ onna Stick = Human-Divine Corn Dog. Yes, it's disrespectful to the extreme. That's why the Christian church universally has Jesus nailed on a tropaeum and not a penetrative crux. Both are crosses, mind you.

la70119

Yes, I've read somewhere that it only went back to the 1920's, others as far back as the 2nd Century. IIRC, Irenaeus said the Hebrew equivalent of Ihsous (Jesus) had only two-and-a-half letters. That would be ישו -- Yeshu.

Not just hung, but hung upon a tree -- תלה על עץ (talah 'al 'tz) used to mean impale upon a stake, according to both the JPS and David W. Chapman (who happens to be a believing Christian btw).

steve_bnk

From a documentary, the cross Romans used had a removable crosspiece that would fit on the top, more a T than a cross. Arms would be lashed to the crosspiece. When you think about it, nails would have been expensive considering crucifixtion was a regular event.

It would have been inneficient tro nail to a cross on the ground and then raise it. Much easier to lash to a crosspiece and lift it to an upright post.

la70119

And after they lashed the criminal to the crossbeam they'd nail his feet to the post, then install an acuta crux (upright peg) underneath him so he may "sit on the cross" when exhausted.

Diogenes the Cynic

Yes, we have concrete verification for the nails through the feet with the Yochanan remains.

la70119

The heelbone was probably the ideal place to nail someone up for execution.

EmmaZunz

Apparently the Greek word used, "xylon", can refer to anything made of wood, not necessarily a tree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispute...ecution_method

Duvduv

In a previous thread I was wondering why the Constantine generation used the symbol of the chi rho cross instead of the Latin cross, and whether this indicated their belief that the crucifixion was on a chi rho.
I also wonder whether the analogy to the verse in Deuteronomy was useable specifically because of the ambiguity of the meaning of xylon versus stauros.

On the other hand, if the chi rho was meant to convey the first two letters of the word xristos, why would the Latin regime use the Greek?

semiopen

Seems more like a Roman punishment but it's not clear...

The hebrew word is eytz which can mean tree or wood. The impaling part is not clear.

The Rabbis appear confused on this, they claim that someone who was stoned gets eytzed after they are dead.

Jesus_in_the_Talmud

Sanhedrin 43 a-b - Karlsruhe 2