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chimaira · 09-12-2005, 07:10 PM

Hello all ...

accounts evangelic make say or to make has Jesus of the events or words which are in the LXX,is ok but why that called prophecy and not loan? authors of the Gospels one been able to write their accounts compared to the loan that they one does make LXX,this is impossible ?

bye bye !!!

Chris Weimer · 09-12-2005, 07:11 PM

Que?

chimaira · 09-12-2005, 07:15 PM

sorry i french, does the Gospels borrow or prophesy?

Chris Weimer · 09-12-2005, 08:07 PM

Depends on your point of view. I say borrow.

spin · 09-12-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chimaira

Hello all ...

accounts evangelic make say or to make has Jesus of the events or words which are in the LXX,is ok but why that called prophecy and not loan? authors of the Gospels one been able to write their accounts compared to the loan that they one does make LXX,this is impossible ?

bye bye !!!

Perhaps the French might be easier. Sorry.

spin

chimaira · 09-13-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spin

Perhaps le Français pourrait être
plus facile. Désolé.

spin

d'accord; les récits évangélique font faire et dire a Jésus des évènements se trouvant dans la LXX, les évangélistes ont pu faire dire a Jésus des mots se trouvant dans la LXX, est-ce impossible ?

exemple ; Esaie 7,14 et psaume 22,1 ...

http://trans.voila.fr/

spin · 09-13-2005, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chimaira

The gospel accounts make Jesus do or say things ["events"] that are found in the LXX; ...

(from an earlier attempt)
The Gospel authors could have written their accounts based on borrowing material from the LXX. Is such an idea impossible?

Examples: Isaiah 7:14; Ps 22:1.

(and another)
Do the Gospels simply borrow material from the LXX (to construct their story) or does the LXX prophesy (about the life of Jesus)?

As Chris Weimer indicates, and I think it is the majority opinion here, the gospels borrow.

Logically the simpler explanation, if it treats all the question, is the preferable choice. Borrowing certainly is the easier choice.

The notion of prophecy that we have in the modern world is not that of the ancient Hebrews. The prophet wasn't necessarily a person who predicted the future but who dealt with the state of the world at the time of the prophecy. The christian use of prophets has turned them from social commentators to carnival fortune tellers.

spin

09-12-2005, 07:10 PM	#1
chimaira Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: France Posts: 169	to prophesy or borrow? Hello all ... accounts evangelic make say or to make has Jesus of the events or words which are in the LXX,is ok but why that called prophecy and not loan? authors of the Gospels one been able to write their accounts compared to the loan that they one does make LXX,this is impossible ? bye bye !!!

09-12-2005, 07:15 PM	#3
chimaira Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: France Posts: 169	lol sorry i french, does the Gospels borrow or prophesy?

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