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(This is one off post only)

Christmas is only few days away, it is a date in solar calendar that has been celebrated year after year. Many people get benefits from it for different reasons. For one side it is time for reflection in their feeling to a person by the name Jesus (in Islam Eisa), one party maybe just a day for rest and another party just another day for drink in the pub etc.
We know now that the 25th December is date that is off the mark since theology from the day it start always using lunar calendar, but any celebrated day is meaningless unless there is an action preceeding that date is perform. Many childrens are happy with christmas because they have been waiting for it. Here waiting is an act that make the date meaningful.

The muslims have one quite meaningful date, and this meaningful event occurs in the night. Ramadan is a month with either 29 or 30 days, it is fasting month. The fasting start early in the morning until sunset, so roughly aroud 13 hours. Between sunset and early morning in the last 10 days is where this event can occurs, it is known as "the Night of Power".
So when we fast for full 20 days we expect to benefit the Night of Power at any time from there. That is when the date become meaningful.

So, is the 25th December meaningful for you? If yes what performance have you perform that make the date meaningful?.

The reason for season is what we hear often, and all of them wrote:
"He is the reason for the season". Yes he is the reason for season, but he is just one of few, there are two others.

Jesus is the reason.
The Christians as well as others saying that without real meaning, except what is beneficial for them individually. This is a selfish reason.
"He was born to die for us to cleanse our sins" so I heard. If he come back and he said that was not he was born for, he probably will be killed by the Christian mobs because that is what you worry about is it not?. The workers will kill him to keep our holidays intact, it is great day on payroll for sitting doing nothing, yes?

No, he came to correct the error ways of the religious people in that time, in that day the spiritual condition of the people from the bottom all the way to the top was in complete mess. The religious leaders were gods and the whole land was oppressed by the romans and the people were suffering as slaves. The inactivity of those in the religious office was one of the reason, and it was their death as chosen people, people who were trusted to carry the God's message to the world which they did not. The arrival of the Gospel was the end of that privilage, the privilage was transfered to the new generation of the believers known as Christians.
But you too drink and drunk and forget the message, and the privilage was removed after the Oneness of God message end up into paganism.

Maryam is the reason.
This is another reason, a very strong reason, even stronger than the former.
If you notice that the religious books always seem addressing men continuosly, have you ever wonder why?. Of course the spiritual teaching are for men and women, but there is strong emphasis toward men.
The Qur'an states that the paradise and hell only exist as long as the heaven and earth endure. Once they cease from existance the punishment and the rewards will stop. But instead of talking about the meaning of everlasting, here I will only mention what is have something to do with this life.

We are exist in this world because the existance of male and female, it is through sex intercourse the human existance can be maintained, without it we won't be here. But here is the message, God just showing it to us that this is false belief. Mary without sex intercourse was pregnant, is not that very strong message?
The Qur'an and the Gospels stated the samething. It is always for strong reason only when the Qur'an mentioned something.

Luke Chapter 1:
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

when the angels said:
O Mary! Lo! God giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him, whose name is
the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto God). (3:45)

If women can continue their existance without men existance, can we men continue our existance without women?
The answer is yes we can, with something beyond our usual sex intercourse, we will be able to continue with one only method. Unfortunately this is Islamic and I have no choice except through that:

Lo! We it is Who bring the dead to life.
We record that which they send before them, and their footprints.
And all things We have kept in a clear Register. (36:12)

You know what footprints is, it is something that we left after we are not here. But is it good prints or bad prints is depend on us. If we are good we leave the good prints and the bad will leave the bad prints. And those prints will never cease arriving to the owners as long as the heaven an the earth exist.

Prophet Muhammad made this a bit clear:
There are three things that maintain the connection after the death of persons (anyone):
1. Good children.
2. Our knowledge that beneficial to others.
3. Our good deeds

Jesus did not have wife therefore he had no children, this is the message. His mother as a woman can continue her existance by having children even without man, yet her son was not married, but he said there is no death even without having biological generation. Is not that message?

When we pass something either good or bad, as long as other people still doing it because our teachings (good or bad), we always receive it well after our body is disintegrated into dust, everything keep on coming to us in heaven or hell. This is our good or bad knowledge which will be either bliss or torment.

Another example is our contribution. We spent our money to build a school, and people do get benefit from that school. As long as that school is still beneficial to others we keep on receiving it in the spiritual world.

This is reason for the season, this is not a day for drink let alone drunk.
It is day to reflect what we have done in life so far, do we create a fire that burn us as long as the heaven and the earth endure or our bliss while waiting.
It is a day to visit and maintain the communication among humans, our elders especially.
It is a day for mothers, without them we won't be here. Without Mary as mother, Jesus would not be around telling the Kingdom of God, hell and heaven. In Islam the position of mother is next to God before anything else, we hurt our mother here even if she is a crook than kiss the heaven goodbye for good regardless. That is the strong reason that we forget.

Have very happy Christmas, and don't forget those who are in needs, as what you do them are what you do to Him who creates, therefore for ourselves.

Peace to you.
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Matthew 25:
35
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat:
I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36
Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me:
I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37
Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee
an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38
When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in?
or naked, and clothed thee?
39
Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you,
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,
ye have done it unto me

Clivedurdle

Interesting. Your post feels as if you do not have a basic understanding of xianity - my apologies if this is wrong.

Christmas is the celebration of the birth of christ - the saviour of the world. There is loads of preparation for it - Advent.

Xians have an annual calendar that forms a cycle - God becoming human at xmas, God dying for us and being born again at Easter.

Jesus to xians is not another prophet, but is the son of God and God incarnate. Listen to the xmas carols - it is all in there somewhere!

Muan

Some may find this interesting:



"Allah" is the most appropriate name for God in the Qur’an. Is this name "Allah" mentioned in other religious scriptures besides the Qur’an?

Answer:

Almost all the major religious scriptures of the world contain the word "Allah" as one of the names of God.

a. Elohim El, Elah, Alah
In the Bible, God is very often referred to as ‘Elohim’ in the Hebrew language. The ‘im’ in the ending is a plural of honour and God is referred to as ‘El’ or ‘Elah’ in the English Bible with commentary, edited by reverend C. I. Scofield. ‘Elah’ is alternatively spelled as ‘Alah’. The difference in spelling is only of a single ‘L’. Muslims spell Allah as ‘Allah’ while the Reverend has spelled it as Alah and they pronounce it as ‘Elah’. Muslims pronounce it as Allah. Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages therefore we say it should be pronounced as ‘Allah’ and not as ‘Elah’.

When I was in school, I was taught ‘D, O’ is do, ‘T, O’ is to. What is ‘G, O’ It is ‘go’ and not ‘gu’. ‘N, U, T’ is nut, ‘C, U, T’ cut; ‘B, U, T’ is but, what is ‘P, U, T’? Not ‘pat’ but it is ‘put’. If you ask "Why?" The answer is "It is their language". If I have to pass I have to say ‘P, U, T’ is ‘put’ and not ‘pat’. Similarly the right pronunciation for A, L, L, A, H, is Allah.

b. Jesus (pbuh) cried out Allah Allah when he was put on the cross
It is mentioned in the New Testament in the Gospel of Mathew, chapter 27 verse 46 as well as Gospel of Mark, chapter 15 verse 34 when Jesus (pbuh) was put on the cross.

Jesus cried with a loud voice saying "E’-Li, E’-Li la’-ma sa-bach’-tha-ni?" that is to say, ‘My God, My God why hast Thou Forsaken Me?’ Does this sound like Jehovah! Jehovah! why has thou forsaken me? Does it sound like Abba Abba? The answer is ‘No’. Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages and if you translate "E’-Li, E’-Li la’-ma sa-bach’-tha-ni" into Arabic it is ‘Allah Allah lama tarak tani’ does it sound similar?

This statement of Jesus (pbuh), "E’-Li, E’-Li la’-ma sa-bach’-tha-ni" is preserved in its original Hebrew in each and every of its translation which is available in more than 2000 different languages of the world and in each and every of them, "Allah" is present.

2. "Allah" in Sikhism
One of the names by which Gurunanak Sahib referred to God is "Allah".

3a. "Allah" in Rigveda Book 2 Hymn I verse II
Even in the Rigveda which is the most sacred scripture of the Hindus, one of the attributes given to God Almighty in Book no 2 Hymn no I verse II, is ‘Ila’ which if pronounced properly is the same as Allah.
3b. Allo Upanishad:
Amongst the various Upanishads one of the Upanishad is named as ‘Allo’ Upanishad in which God is referred to as "Allah" several times.



http://www.drzakirnaik.com/pages/qanda/47.php

show_no_mercy

I'm pretty sure that "Allah" means THE God. "Al" means "the", "lah" means God.

Wasn't Jesus a Greek Jew (I could be wrong)? Why would he speak in Hebrew OR Arabic?

Muan

Muslims believe the Bible was once the word of God before being corrupted by man. Muslims also believe Jesus(pbuh) was a muslim.

For example if you read the holy Qur'an, the Holy Qur'an says in Surah Al Imran chapter number 3 verse number 49 "Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) was sent as a messenger to the children of Israeli". That means according to the Holy Qur'an Prophet Jesus peace be upon him was only sent for the children of Israeli.

And if you read the Bible a similar message is given. In the New testament in the Gospel of Matthew chapter number 10 verses 5-6 Jesus peace be upon him tells his 12 disciples "That go ye not into the way of the Gentiles". Who are the Gentiles? The non Jews the Hindus the Muslims. "Go ye not into the way of the Gentiles in to the house of the Samaritans you shall enter not but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israeli. And Jesus peace be upon him further says in the New testament in the gospel of Matthew chapter number 15 verse number 24 "That I have not been sent but as a messenger to the lost sheep of the Children of Israeli"
That means both the Qur'an and the bible say that Jesus peace be upon him was only sent for the children of Israeli.

But Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him according to the holy Qur'an in Surah Al Ahsab chapter 33 verse number 40 says that "Muhammad peace be upon him is not the father of any of you men but is a universal messenger and is the seal of the Prophets and God is all knowing and full of Knowledge"

The Glorious Qur'an says that Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him is the last and final messenger of God Almighty.

And the Qur'an says in Surah Al Umbeya chapter number 21 verse number verse 107 "That we have not sent Muhammad but as a mercy to the whole of humanity."

So Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was not only sent for the Muslims or the Arabs but was sent to the whole of Human kind.

And further the Glorious Qur'an says in Surah al Saba chapter 34 verse number 28 "We have sent these as a universal messenger giving glad tidings to men. And warning them against sin yet most of them do not understand."

http://www.drzakirnaik.com/pages/introduction/index.php

Muan

Jesus(pbuh) was Jew by birth muslim by faith thats probably the right way to put it. Jesus(pbuh) is seen as a prophet of God not God.

Mageth

Jesus was a Jew who was a Muslim, several hundred years before Islam even existed? Get real.

I have just been revealed a new religion - Magethlarism - that supplants Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. I declare that Mohammed was a Magethlarite by faith! That's the right way to put it!

Muan

This is real:

Many people have the misconception that Islam is a new religion. That came into existence 1400 years ago and that Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him was the founder of the religion. In fact Islam has been here since time immemorial since time began since man set foot on this earth and Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him is not the founder of the religion of Islam but is the last and final messenger of God almighty.

No Muslim is a Muslim is he does not believe in Jesus peace be upon him, in Adam peace be upon him, in Moses peace be upon, in Noah, in Abraham, in Ishmael, in Isaac in Joesph in David peace be upon them all. If any Muslim rejects faith in any of these messengers he seizes to be a Muslim.

But what we believe is that these messengers they were only sent for a particular group of people at a particular time period, and their complete message was not sent for the whole of humanity but was only send for a specific group of people at that time period.

http://www.drzakirnaik.com/pages/introduction/index.php

Mageth

They have that "misconception" because it's true, Muan.


That's part of the religious myth that Mohammed and his followers created. You're trying to use your own religious myth to validate your own religious myth.

You're absolutely correct - that's what you believe. And that beleif is part of the religious myth that Mohammed et al created. That doesn't make it true, however. Islam as a religion is @1400 years old, no older.

Chili

No, then he was a Catholic because Jesus is the one who took his own ancestry right back to Adam to God with Mohammed just being another hell bound protestant if the gates of hell did not prevail. See the lineage of Jesus in Luke on this.