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mark9950 · 09-13-2003, 07:47 PM

To believe that Jesus is/was a false prophet?

premjan · 09-14-2003, 12:37 AM

yes, since he preached the Jewish God unto the gentiles. The Jewish God was always meant only for the Jews. Hence Jesus is a race traitor.

Kruger · 09-14-2003, 06:34 AM

A race traitor? I wonder? I guess he is a visionary then you racist and backward. He is the son of man in him he sees every human are the same the house of god. Kruger an infidel who don't believe in religion but instead the teaching.

Heathen Dawn · 09-14-2003, 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by premjan
yes, since he preached the Jewish God unto the gentiles.

No premjan, he didn’t. Paul was the one who preached the Jewish God (albeit modified) unto the Gentiles. Jesus was content preaching to the “lost sheep of Israel”.

The Jews reject Jesus because he didn’t fulfill the promise of the Messiah. The Messiah, according to Judaism, is supposed to bring an earthly kingdom for the Jews, and world peace. Since Jesus did not free the Jews from the Roman yoke, and wars continued after his coming, he could not be the Messiah.

premjan · 09-14-2003, 07:02 AM

was definitely a traitor then. He always struck me as someone of independent ambitions. Not a softie like Jesus. I bet he did a fair bit of maneuvering and wheeling-dealing to build up the church into a formidable power.

Mullibok · 09-14-2003, 07:14 AM

Since Paul wasn't Jewish himself, I can hardly see anything amounting to treachery on his part.

premjan · 09-14-2003, 07:19 AM

was very much Jewish (born of Jewish parents) although his parents lived in Rome.

Mullibok · 09-14-2003, 11:36 AM

I had thought that he was never really a member of Judaism, so it would be hard to see how he betrayed something he never thought to be a part of. I could be wrong though, and poor choice of words on my part to begin with.

truelies · 09-14-2003, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by Mullibok
Since Paul wasn't Jewish himself, I can hardly see anything amounting to treachery on his part.

How do you figure???????????

Mullibok · 09-14-2003, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by truelies
How do you figure???????????

Already answered with a concession that it's possible my memory is playing tricks on me. Sheesh.

09-13-2003, 07:47 PM	#1
mark9950 Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: midwest usa Posts: 1,203	Are The Jews 100% Correct? To believe that Jesus is/was a false prophet?

09-14-2003, 12:37 AM	#2
premjan Obsessed Contributor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 61,538	IMO yes, since he preached the Jewish God unto the gentiles. The Jewish God was always meant only for the Jews. Hence Jesus is a race traitor.

09-14-2003, 07:02 AM	#5
premjan Obsessed Contributor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 61,538	So Paul was definitely a traitor then. He always struck me as someone of independent ambitions. Not a softie like Jesus. I bet he did a fair bit of maneuvering and wheeling-dealing to build up the church into a formidable power.

09-14-2003, 07:19 AM	#7
premjan Obsessed Contributor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 61,538	St. Paul was very much Jewish (born of Jewish parents) although his parents lived in Rome.

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09-14-2003, 06:34 AM	#3
Kruger Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ca Posts: 7	A race traitor? I wonder? I guess he is a visionary then you racist and backward. He is the son of man in him he sees every human are the same the house of god. Kruger an infidel who don't believe in religion but instead the teaching.

09-14-2003, 07:14 AM	#6
Mullibok Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 814	Since Paul wasn't Jewish himself, I can hardly see anything amounting to treachery on his part.

09-14-2003, 11:36 AM	#8
Mullibok Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 814	I had thought that he was never really a member of Judaism, so it would be hard to see how he betrayed something he never thought to be a part of. I could be wrong though, and poor choice of words on my part to begin with.

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