Ben C Smith

Does anybody on this board know what the good word is about the list of 70 disciples attributed to Hippolytus? (This list is listed as dubious or spurious in the Ante-Nicene Fathers series.) What is the story behind this list?

Thanks.

Ben.

mountainman

Hi Ben,

Jerome's Illustrious Men List
(and no earlier )

Best wishes,

Pete

EternallyI

It is not the list which is marked as dubious or spurious, but the whole Appendix To The Works Of Hippolytus. The list is of the Seventy Apostles and not disciples. In the Appendix it immediately follows a section entitled Hippolytus On The Twelve Apostles, where he he gives an account of where each preached and how and where each one died. That's all I got.

Roger Pearse

The footnotes help on this:

150. In the Codex Baroccian. 206. This is found also, along with the former piece, On the Twelve Apostles, in two codices of the Coislinian or Seguierian Library, as Montfaucon states in his recension of the Greek manuscripts of that library. He mentions also a third codex of Hippolytus, On the Twelve Apostles. (Probably spurious, but yet antique.)

So I think that we are here dealing with a fragment from a Byzantine miscellaneous codex, which suddenly starts quoting from some lost work of Hippolytus (another one does the same with bits of Philip of Side). The Barroci codices are in the Bodleian.

The other approach to this is to find the edition being translated; probably there is a section in Greek exactly parallel to this collection of fragments in the English. Migne would be a good place to start.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

andrewcriddle

Hi Ben

The Following is from Bruce Metzger Names for the Nameless in New Testament Tools and Studies Volume X

Eusebius knew the names of only Five of the Seventy Disciples http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.vi.xii.html Epiphanius has a longer selection but does not have a full list (Panarion book XX)

The first known full list is in the Chronicon Paschale which was written shortly after 629. There are various other lists found later attributed to Irenaeus, Hippolytus, Dorotheus, Epiphanius, Symeon Logothetes etc and variant traditions found in the Syrian churches.

Schermann's Prophetarum vitae fabulosae, indices apostolorum discipulorumque Domini... Teubner Leipzig 1907 gives the various lists.

Andrew Criddle

Ben C Smith

Thanks, guys.

I have actually skimmed that article by Metzger, but had forgotten all about it in this connection (and I do not have it at hand).

I do have access to the Chronicon Paschale in Greek. I will try to locate the list in it.

Ben.

Ben C Smith

Okay, I found the list in the Chronicon Paschale; it is on pages 400-403 of the Dindorf edition (olympiad 202).

Thanks, Andrew.

Ben.