http://godkind.org/universal-salvation.html
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Originally Posted by ohmi
People with guns are always shooting them off and delighting in the holes they make, but they do not always find the truth by that destructive non-co-operative method ,even though they usually feel pleased with themselves ... the tools men use are all blunt and wielded by naked apes with ad hoc 'evolved' ideas that do not match all experience and intuition and are often shaped by 'fashion' in mere commonplace belief of the period.
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Your "smooth words" don't at all alter the fact that you have been selectively quoting Scriptures out of context, while ignoring or not addressing the implications of any verses that disprove the false interpretation that you are attempting to promote.
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Originally Posted by ohmi
As for doctrine, as I have now said several times, I have none, I came here to discuss some [to me] interesting stuff and for convenience state the most promising lines that I have found so far, but not to sell it to anyone [since I buy very little that this world has to offer my self].
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Yes, you do
claim that you have no doctrine, however the readers of this forum are not that gullible. The
DOCTRINE of "Universal salvation" is a well known DOCTRINE, one that has been repeatedly refuted, opposed and rejected by most Christian theologians and churches for the last two thousand years.
It is rather disingenuous of you to come here offering up all the arguments of this long discredited "DOCTRINE of Universal salvation", and then attempt to claim that you have no such doctrine.
As I have pointed out several times previously, what you are preaching
IS, and always has been, considered as being a "DOCTRINE" by ALL of the Christian churches, both by the
majority that long rejected that "DOCTRINE" as well as by that minority that have promoted that "DOCTRINE".
It is a DOCTRINE that was specifically renounced and anathematized by majority decree of The Christian Church.
And in times past, the Christian authorities
would have arrested you, and had you refused to renounce this heresy, they would have most certainly sentenced you to execution.
"Love", a word you like to throw around a lot, is protective of, and jealous for the object of its affection, which in this instance is the defense of an accurate interpretation of the teachings of Scripture, in an opposition to the perversions and falsehoods that you, and your father, have long tried to foist off upon the ignorant and unsuspecting.
Your pernicious DOCTRINE has recently been gaining headway within the churches, being oh so "inclusive", so "accepting", so "willing to compromise" so willing to omit any teaching of such Scriptures as might make your nest of snakes to squirm.
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Originally Posted by ohmi
As regards the eventual salvation of all creation from the eil that God created to show us that it doesn't work, well it simply wouldn't be Love not to do so ... thuis is then what the scripture explains, but I cannot quote the whole scripture here, so I just point at some of the highlights , and maybe a few people would recognise the Love that they seek and seek to do in the Love thus shown by God for His creation?
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And quite
selective "highlights" they are, conveniently, you never address the implications of those verses that clearly discredit your perverted DOCTRINE.
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Originally Posted by ohmi
Personally I do not find setting people against each other in debate to be very productive in bringing people to wisdom, rather the co-operation of Love is what does the trick eventually... pressuring people's egos to entrench and defend their current ideas is a way to make wars , not an effective means to find the truth ... Equally God has decreed that the truth is a narrow path mostly alone, until the new earth and very few of us are permitted to find it before death... this should make us humble if we realise that we know so little, but we manage to mess that up too ...
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Rather, it is the co-operation in the Love of a lie, that will allow your "trick" to flourish and seduce men into damnation, destruction, and ultimate annihilation.
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Originally Posted by ohmi
As to the website you mention, there is nothing there which disproves the salvation of all creation, just an average collection of misunderstandings...
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The website carefully addresses verse by verse each one of those verses which you have been abusing, no, not a collection of misunderstandings, but a loving and careful examination of what The Scriptures have to say on the subject and analysis of the arguments pro and con.
Go, crawl back under your rock old sneaky snake, 'ere your head gets stomped on yet again.
05-06-2008, 06:52 AM
