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steve_bnk · 08-18-2010, 04:22 PM

I think that is part of Mormonism. The lost tribe of Israel ended up in North America,

sugarhitman · 08-18-2010, 04:36 PM

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I think that is part of Mormonism. The lost tribe of Israel ended up in North America,

Well, I suspect Olbermann will have this for #1 worse person tonight.

steve_bnk · 08-18-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by steve_bnk

I think that is part of Mormonism. The lost tribe of Israel ended up in North America,

Well, I suspect Olbermann will have this for #1 worse person tonight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Los...ter-day_Saints

'..Latter-day Saints
Main article: Mormon view of the House of Joseph
Latter-day Saints believe in the literal gathering of Israel, and the LDS Church is actively gathering people from the twelve tribes...'

http://www.bibleandscience.com/archa...losttribes.htm

'..After Columbus discovered America in 1492 there was much speculation as to how the Indians came to America. Joseph Smith believed that some of the Indians were from some of the tribes of Israel. Mormons believe that a family from the tribe of Manasseh migrated to the America shortly before Jerusalem was destroyed in 586 BC, and that another group migrated after the fall of Jerusalem. Smith wrote the Book of Mormon to explain about the Indians that Christ visited after he arose..'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck#Adulthood

'...In 1996, while working for a New Haven-area radio station, Beck briefly attended Yale University. Beck took one theology class, "Early Christology," and then dropped out.[19][21] This was followed by Beck going on a "spiritual quest" where he "sought out answers in churches and bookstores."[19] As Beck later recounted in his books and stage performances, his first attempt at self-education involved six wide-ranging authors: Alan Dershowitz, Pope John Paul II, Adolf Hitler, Billy Graham, Carl Sagan, and Friedrich Nietzsche.[19] During this time, Beck's Mormon friend and former radio partner Pat Gray argued in favor of the "comprehensive worldview" offered by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, an offer that Beck vehemently rejected until a few years later.[19..'

Toto · 08-23-2010, 02:28 PM

Here's the explanation

Evangelical Tells Beck He's "Off The Reservation"

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On his radio show last week, Brannon Howse of Worldview Matters accused Glenn Beck of “bait and switch” tactics to bring Christians together into a coalition on shared goals and then draw them into Mormonism by using manipulative double language. “He’s setting up a conspiracy theory of hidden truths showing this to be a Mormon Christian country.”

Tensions between Beck and the conservative Christian world surfaced earlier in the week when Beck told Bill O’Reilly that he didn’t think gay marriage would destroy America and in fact, he did care much about it at all.

Then on his show on Wednesday, Beck discussed an obscure archeological find, the Bat Creek Stone, that Beck believes has been hidden from the public by the Smithsonian Institution and others because it is evidence of ties between ancient Israel and Native Americans -- which, although Beck did not say this explicitly, would also be evidence for claims (albeit recently disputed within the LDS Church) made in the Book of Mormon. Howse, on his radio show, said he was “stunned” to hear Beck “laying down Mormon teaching” and “when [Beck] started talking about the Bat Creek Stone. . . . I didn’t stay with it, it was just too weird.” (While Howse presented no evidence that Mormons have used the Bat Creek Stone to promote such a view, Beck's use of it was characteristically wacky, as the theory he promoted has long been discredited by archeologists.) ...

More on the Bat Creek Stone

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In the early 1970s, the inscription became a source of controversy when linguist Cyrus Gordon argued it was actually a Paleo-Hebrew inscription, and thus provided evidence of Pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact. However, University of Tennessee archaeologists and other experts reject Gordon's assertion, arguing instead that the inscription is a fraud typical of late-19th century archaeological hoaxes

Cege · 08-23-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

Here's the explanation

Evangelical Tells Beck He's "Off The Reservation"

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On his radio show last week, Brannon Howse of Worldview Matters accused Glenn Beck of “bait and switch” tactics to bring Christians together into a coalition on shared goals and then draw them into Mormonism by using manipulative double language. “He’s setting up a conspiracy theory of hidden truths showing this to be a Mormon Christian country.”

Tensions between Beck and the conservative Christian world surfaced earlier in the week when Beck told Bill O’Reilly that he didn’t think gay marriage would destroy America and in fact, he did care much about it at all.

Then on his show on Wednesday, Beck discussed an obscure archeological find, the Bat Creek Stone, that Beck believes has been hidden from the public by the Smithsonian Institution and others because it is evidence of ties between ancient Israel and Native Americans -- which, although Beck did not say this explicitly, would also be evidence for claims (albeit recently disputed within the LDS Church) made in the Book of Mormon. Howse, on his radio show, said he was “stunned” to hear Beck “laying down Mormon teaching” and “when [Beck] started talking about the Bat Creek Stone. . . . I didn’t stay with it, it was just too weird.” (While Howse presented no evidence that Mormons have used the Bat Creek Stone to promote such a view, Beck's use of it was characteristically wacky, as the theory he promoted has long been discredited by archeologists.) ...

More on the Bat Creek Stone

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In the early 1970s, the inscription became a source of controversy when linguist Cyrus Gordon argued it was actually a Paleo-Hebrew inscription, and thus provided evidence of Pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact. However, University of Tennessee archaeologists and other experts reject Gordon's assertion, arguing instead that the inscription is a fraud typical of late-19th century archaeological hoaxes

Ohhhhhhh, the Bat Creek Stone! I should have known! Here I was thinking it was the Newark Earthworks and the Decalogue Stone! http://www.newarkadvocate.com/articl...1/8200307/1002

Jimmy Higgins · 08-24-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cege

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Originally Posted by Toto

Here's the explanation

Evangelical Tells Beck He's "Off The Reservation"

More on the Bat Creek Stone

Ohhhhhhh, the Bat Creek Stone! I should have known! Here I was thinking it was the Newark Earthworks and the Decalogue Stone! http://www.newarkadvocate.com/articl...1/8200307/1002

Based on a Mormon Bookmark I've seen, they boated to Peru. It'd be confusing as to why not a single Hebrew symbol can be found between Peru and the US.

Scholar · 08-26-2010, 12:42 PM

That is very interesting...I think the first problem to analyze here is why in the world are you watching Glenn Beck?

Zeluvia · 08-27-2010, 05:55 AM

This reminds me of this guy

http://www.hwacompendium.com/MOA/CHAP5.HTM#15

Herbert W. Armstrong, whom I had to watch on TV at some time of my life under duress.

But one of the things he explored on one of his shows was the "royal" stone of Isreal, which was the ancient seat of the kings...

He stated this stone was moved to Britian, and was under the "throne" until it was moved to the US after the Revolutionary war and lost... if I remember the show correctly.

I bet Beck watched it too = P

Minimalist · 08-27-2010, 05:15 PM

Any idea that Beck supports is doubtlessly wrong.

Toto · 09-06-2010, 11:31 AM

Beck on Bat Creek Stone

08-26-2010, 12:42 PM	#17
Scholar New Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 2	Intersting That is very interesting...I think the first problem to analyze here is why in the world are you watching Glenn Beck?

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08-18-2010, 04:22 PM	#11
steve_bnk Contributor Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,602	I think that is part of Mormonism. The lost tribe of Israel ended up in North America,

08-27-2010, 05:55 AM	#18
Zeluvia Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 5,172	This reminds me of this guy http://www.hwacompendium.com/MOA/CHAP5.HTM#15 Herbert W. Armstrong, whom I had to watch on TV at some time of my life under duress. But one of the things he explored on one of his shows was the "royal" stone of Isreal, which was the ancient seat of the kings... He stated this stone was moved to Britian, and was under the "throne" until it was moved to the US after the Revolutionary war and lost... if I remember the show correctly. I bet Beck watched it too = P

08-27-2010, 05:15 PM	#19
Minimalist Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,808	Any idea that Beck supports is doubtlessly wrong.

09-06-2010, 11:31 AM	#20
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Beck on Bat Creek Stone

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