Amaleq13

“quickly”? “first few years”? How soon do you imagine a son (the daughters would have to remain pregnant and caring for children) can become a productive part of the “labor force”?

You’d have to wait at least 13 years or so before the next generation could reproduce, right? Are you considering a 13 year-old male to be a productive member of the labor force?

Are you assuming that all couples would repeatedly have sets of twins (one male, one female)?

Let's get specific on this.

hyzer

Like the American pioneers . . . . .

Three years after they first set foot on American shores, 440 of the original 500 Jamestown settlers had died.

Riiiiiight.

shirley knott

As others have pointed out Dave, you have never pointed to a single 2+ mile thick sediment layer in any geologic column anywhere.
Never,
Not once.
And so, those of us who are familiar with the geologic column call shenanigans on your claim.
It is your claim, you need to defend it or abandon it.
I assert that examination of the geologic column shows no single layer that meets the criteria of your rather silly notion that somehow a worldwide flood submerged the entire world, and, in your words, left a 2+ mile thick sediment layer everywhere.
You assert otherwise.
Show us.
Or abandon the claim, and the flood.

no hugs for thugs,
Shirley Knott

deadman_932

Dave's lack of knowledge concerning geology (and MANY other areas) is vast and untamable.

Look up "shields" especially Laurentide (Laurentian) and Gondwanan shields and tell me they are covered with 2 miles of sediments, Dave. There are huge areas of the Earth that you omit. You have no evidence of continuity of the sediment layers elsewhere, either. You have no evidence of the jumbled deposition of fossils that you would need. etc., etc. Your claims are noted and dismissed, Dave.

By the way, Dave, I'd like to remind you that this entire discussion is rendered moot by the facts of radiometric dating methods...which you have not shown to be fatally flawed. This means no YEC dreams and also renders your claims...vapid claims about flood deposition...irrelevant.

ericmurphy

Also, Shirley, since you have posted on rd.net, I'm sure you're aware of Dave's "experiment" involving an inch of water, two inches of sand, and a jelly jar, by which Dave managed to persuade himself that a one-mile layer of water was capable of holding in suspension a two-mile layer of sediments.

I don't think I need to comment beyond that.

shirley knott

Oh, indeed, Eric.
My sides still hurt from laughter at this masterpiece of delusional pseudo-experiementation.
And I deeply appreciate that no one seems willing to let afDave forget the faux pas. Those here who might not have seen this should follow the links that have been posted hereabouts to that little episode.
He really is in a class by himself (or so we can fervently hope).

hugs,
Shirley Knott

Constant Mews

Indeed, the mortality rates amongst the American pioneers was quite high - only a continual influx of new settlers kept many of the pioneer settlements going. Eight individuals are simply insufficient to form a viable population kernel.

Mike PSS

Shirley,
I've asked Dave to examine the K-T boundry layer. This layer is a certain candidate for a global flood layer (if such an argument had any sort of traction in the first place.... moving on...).

For some reason Dave is reluctant to respond to this idea. I'll have to cruise over to AiG and ICR to see why Dave wouldn't select the K-T boundry layer as a candidate. Maybe it's because the YEC's would lose out on the whole "man living with dinosaur story". A favorite with the kiddies I hear. Hell, even Ham's creo museam has a kiddy ride with a saddled tricerotops.

OT??? ME???? Shirley you jest.... :Cheeky:

JonF

Paleosols. I love 'em. Davie thinks that plants float top-up-roots-down, and are gently depositied in growing position by receding floodwaters, which considerately pack soil around the plant's roots as they further recede.

Steviepinhead

Not to mention that if dave were to get "stuck" with the everything-below-the-Cambrian approach, there goes most of his "billions of dead things" claim, since the pre-Cambrian is, with a few important but modest exceptions (in terms of absolute numbers, and of fossils of anything that would be remotely familiar to dave), virtually bereft of the fossils of metazoans.