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Old 03-10-2009, 09:18 AM   #21
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But who were the christians? Here the new nation of christians is being defined.
The term christian, christ and chrstianity emerged after 174 CE.
The term "Christians" and a certain "Christus" is mentioned in Tacitus' "Annals" circa 116 CE; the word "Christ" appears in the LXX version of Daniel, which is a 3rd - 1st century BCE document.

However, the names attributed to the gospels Mark, Luke, Matthew, and John appear to be post 174 CE.
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I recall discussing this verse before in detail, but it is such a perennial favorite here that I can't locate the thread in the forrest of threads on "Jesus the bloodthirsty psycho hypocrite."

I think that the words are Jesus', not the King in the story; if they are to be ascribed to the King, Jesus is identified with the King.

It only sounds psycho by our modern humanistic standards. That was how Kings were supposed to act in those days.
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