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Old 01-07-2004, 12:25 PM   #1
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Default So, I'm listening to the radio in the car...

And I jump accross a station that is giving christianity hell. I mean, this guy's on a 10 minute harangue about rape, booty tradition, murder, genocide, oppression of women, and just overall bloodthirsty and evil doings. I'm thinking, boy when he stops, this christian dj is going to punch him. But, the dj agrees. I'm shocked. Then the next line out of the DJ's mouth floors me. "So what you're saying is that islam is a violent religion?". Boy was my compass off! They start discussing how that it is a violent religion and that muslims want christians dead...etc.


Then it hit's me. How can they not see that their religion is identical? They follow the same bloodthirsty deity, and they're slamming islam for it. Suddenly my blood pressure is up, and it's absolutely driving me crazy that they could say the exact thing that they need to discuss about their own religion, but are putting it off on another. The worst case of transferrance I've ever seen in my life. Do they not even look at their own religious history? Can't they read the old testament, or is it simply passe to delve into the older parts of their own faith?
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Both sides only see and hear what they want to. They both ignore the violent horrible parts of their beliefs, then convince themselves their version of 'god' is peaceful.
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Not too comfortable finding myself in the position of taking Xianity's side, here, but one big difference I see is that "the violence in their history" is, for the MOST part, history. For Islam, the violence and bloodshed is "current events."

A pox on both their houses.
 
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Ridiculous, did they not know that throughout history atheists caused more death than all religions combined?

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Ridiculous, did they not know that throughout history atheists caused more death than all religions combined?

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While arguably true, it is a coincidence of time only that is responsible for this. Communism became sufficiently powerful to kill people at a time when it was easy to kill lots of people, and there were lots of people to kill.

Personally, I have trouble seeing the communists as atheists. They didn't eliminate religion, they attempted to replace god with the state, is all. The worship part is still there.

Given sufficient population and technology, religious purges would have easily been as nasty.

It's certainly not for lack of intent.

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While arguably true, it is a coincidence of time only that is responsible for this. Communism became sufficiently powerful to kill people at a time when it was easy to kill lots of people, and there were lots of people to kill.

Personally, I have trouble seeing the communists as atheists. They didn't eliminate religion, they attempted to replace god with the state, is all. The worship part is still there.

Given sufficient population and technology, religious purges would have easily been as nasty.

It's certainly not for lack of intent.

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I think he was being facetious...Atheism is not a structured religion, but a lack of belief, therefore it's adherents aren't a group to commit anything.
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Not what I'd call BC&H material. I'm moving this to GRD.
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Then it hit's me. How can they not see that their religion is identical? They follow the same bloodthirsty deity, and they're slamming islam for it. Suddenly my blood pressure is up, and it's absolutely driving me crazy that they could say the exact thing that they need to discuss about their own religion, but are putting it off on another. The worst case of transferrance I've ever seen in my life. Do they not even look at their own religious history? Can't they read the old testament, or is it simply passe to delve into the older parts of their own faith?
But, would you expect anything else? I mean, there is so much hypocrisy...it’[s inescapable! MANY Christians believe in the death penalty and capitalism, and so many other things that go against what they preach.

It is always one’s tendency to dehumanize the other, and even easier to criticize your faults in another’s actions. And the generalizations have to be huge, because if they were to realize that not everybody is that way, then they couldn’t have their precious wars and their beloved, all-encompassing hatred.

It’s ironic: one of my best friends is a born-again Christian, and I am an Atheist. She thinks that I am an exception to the rule about atheists (since I have strong morals, am a “good” person, etc.), as it were, and I certainly think that she is the exception to hers. But if we all realized that we are nothing but a bunch of exceptions to the rules…

Okay, sorry. Rant over. This just sparked something in me…

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I wouldn't say those things are only history for christianity. Maybe in parts of the world where 95% of people come from christian homes but not neccessarily in Indonesia, Malaysia, and a few other places.

Their are christians strapping bombs to their children and sending them running into mosques during services.
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Their are christians strapping bombs to their children and sending them running into mosques during services.
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