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Twyll The ChyllTyran · 01-07-2005, 05:45 AM

jesus?
myth, legend, history, propaganda.

here's a good discussion to look at... you may have already seen it if your actually reading this...
http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=111020

here's another strange discussion to look at...
http://board.rapmusic.com/showthread.php?t=841401

why was jesus the ultimate sinner?
he believed he was the one and only true living god. this in itself is wrong, and inherently evil.

he committed many sins that were specifically told to him to be evil:
stealing (crops, hearts),
killing/murdering (fig trees, people),
sabbath (many times),
lord's name in vain (at the very end),
adultery (mary maghlan sp.?)

what was he really?
satan.

the proof:
born of a prostitute... mary was no virgin.
magic/sorcery
"resurrection" (more like a meditative sleep for a fallen angel)
diabolic schemes of his followers including a "new testament" filled with guidlines on how to hold complete fascist dictatorship.
christmas... a blatanly pagan holiday. (check above link for more info)

also...
http://www.ancientamerican.com/article26p1.htm

why were native americans seeing a bearded figure coming from across the ocean?
satan was trying to spread his wings... or claws.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/

sacred texts always point to a savior. their perception of this savior is all different.

almost no sacred texts point to jesus christ as being the savior. besides the ones conceived or accepted by christianity. is this a coincidence? obviously not.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm

look beyond the picture you see... to that picture which is bigger... then look beyond that.

then... the truth will lie in the details...

as predicted by moses... jesus would have known the true name of god.
he never told us... why?

PEACE

ps. this isn't all the evidence... more will come.

Twyll The ChyllTyran · 01-07-2005, 03:09 PM

also... to get some thoughts travelling around in here...

both the judaic torrah, and moslem quran... have hidden mathematical codes that scientists can use to figure out new insights...

torrah=3
quran=19

why doesn't the new testament have one?

PEACE

ps. let me reitterate, SAYING THAT YOU ARE THE ONE AND ONLY LIVING GOD IS THE ONLY SIN WORTH TALKING ABOUT

Jesus: I Am

Twyll: We Are

PEACE again...

long winded fool · 01-16-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Twyll The ChyllTyran

why was jesus the ultimate sinner?
he believed he was the one and only true living god. this in itself is wrong, and inherently evil.

Unless it is right, in which case it is truth and inherently good.

Toto · 01-17-2005, 12:17 AM

Off to ~E~

MrFrosty · 01-18-2005, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toto

Off to ~E~

This thread was so BS that a mod fessed up that they pushed the shiny red button, man.

EDIT: I just noticed that Toto has gone professional. I will have to give him an alternate name to signify his elevation.

deja voodoo · 01-23-2005, 04:04 AM

Just say no to drugs.

Agnostic Theist · 01-23-2005, 08:35 AM

Satan and Jesus are also both attributed for existing (almost) as long as God. There is a 'fallen star' reference that alludes to them both and they claimed to be God's first and right hand.

Now, either

1.) Jesus is Satan

2.) Satan fucked up and Jesus took over

3.) It's all number 2.

I Love Jesus · 01-24-2005, 10:14 AM

Are you serious????
In the small chance that you are....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twyll The ChyllTyran

why was jesus the ultimate sinner?
he believed he was the one and only true living god. this in itself is wrong, and inherently evil.

And if He is the one and only true living God, then the result is the opposite.

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he committed many sins that were specifically told to him to be evil:
stealing (crops, hearts),

Hearts? Stealing hearts???? What does this mean?
And since when is Jesus a crop stealer?
Whats next, "cattle rustling?"

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killing/murdering (fig trees, people),

Murdering a fig tree??? LOL
He never killed anyone, that is a pure fabrication.

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sabbath (many times),

Ok read the Bible for this one. And it doesnt seem like you'd care about the sabbath anyway.

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lord's name in vain (at the very end),

Again, you have no idea what it means to take the Lords name in vain.

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adultery (mary maghlan sp.?)

Stop reading Dan Brown novels. Thats an order from the Illuminati!

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what was he really?
satan.

the proof:
born of a prostitute... mary was no virgin.

Proof? Wow this is awful.
I guess you can just "say" something, and its proof?

Quote:

magic/sorcery
"resurrection" (more like a meditative sleep for a fallen angel)
diabolic schemes of his followers including a "new testament" filled with guidlines on how to hold complete fascist dictatorship.
christmas... a blatanly pagan holiday. (check above link for more info)

:rolling: :rolling: :rolling:
You're style is similar to Lorraine Boettner. Just lists of baseless claims that take hold of the minds of the ignorant..[/QUOTE]

Agnostic Theist · 01-24-2005, 10:43 AM

Again, you have no idea what it means to take the Lords name in vain.

E.g - That piece of halibut was good enoguh for Iehovah

God is not a name, so one can say God

'in vain' refers to pomposity or pretentiousness (arrogance, to cut it short)

Basically we are not to compare ourselves to God.

We're shit of 'is shoe

Twyll The ChyllTyran · 01-24-2005, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Love Jesus

Are you serious????
In the small chance that you are....
i take back what i said, jesus was not the ultimate sinner in one light... and was in another...

And if He is the one and only true living God, then the result is the opposite.
ok but that's irrelevant, he's not.

Hearts? Stealing hearts???? What does this mean?
And since when is Jesus a crop stealer?
Whats next, "cattle rustling?"
yeah your right, if jesus was more like a cowboy and more like a native american, there wouldn't be these blatant problems in the path he chose to follow

Murdering a fig tree??? LOL
He never killed anyone, that is a pure fabrication.
anyone, doesn't matter as much as anything... or are they the same, in which case your argument is null? maybe that's why gluttony is a deadly sin?

Ok read the Bible for this one. And it doesnt seem like you'd care about the sabbath anyway.
besides the fact that i choose to take at least one day off a week... what does it matter? it was the book he was supposed to follow...

Again, you have no idea what it means to take the Lords name in vain.
of course i do, again and again, until evantually i die

Stop reading Dan Brown novels. Thats an order from the Illuminati!
too bad the illuminati does exist... it sort of makes what your saying sadder than true

Proof? Wow this is awful.
I guess you can just "say" something, and its proof?
guess i can

You're style is similar to Lorraine Boettner. Just lists of baseless claims that take hold of the minds of the ignorant.
:down:

[/QUOTE]

i'm not saying that jesus is satan, but he does represent the worse half of men... the part with no self confidence.

PEACE

01-07-2005, 05:45 AM	#1
Twyll The ChyllTyran Regular Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 138	Jesus: The Ultimate Sinner jesus? myth, legend, history, propaganda. here's a good discussion to look at... you may have already seen it if your actually reading this... http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=111020 here's another strange discussion to look at... http://board.rapmusic.com/showthread.php?t=841401 why was jesus the ultimate sinner? he believed he was the one and only true living god. this in itself is wrong, and inherently evil. he committed many sins that were specifically told to him to be evil: stealing (crops, hearts), killing/murdering (fig trees, people), sabbath (many times), lord's name in vain (at the very end), adultery (mary maghlan sp.?) what was he really? satan. the proof: born of a prostitute... mary was no virgin. magic/sorcery "resurrection" (more like a meditative sleep for a fallen angel) diabolic schemes of his followers including a "new testament" filled with guidlines on how to hold complete fascist dictatorship. christmas... a blatanly pagan holiday. (check above link for more info) also... http://www.ancientamerican.com/article26p1.htm why were native americans seeing a bearded figure coming from across the ocean? satan was trying to spread his wings... or claws. http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ sacred texts always point to a savior. their perception of this savior is all different. almost no sacred texts point to jesus christ as being the savior. besides the ones conceived or accepted by christianity. is this a coincidence? obviously not. http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm look beyond the picture you see... to that picture which is bigger... then look beyond that. then... the truth will lie in the details... as predicted by moses... jesus would have known the true name of god. he never told us... why? PEACE ps. this isn't all the evidence... more will come.

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01-07-2005, 03:09 PM	#2
Twyll The ChyllTyran Regular Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 138	also... to get some thoughts travelling around in here... both the judaic torrah, and moslem quran... have hidden mathematical codes that scientists can use to figure out new insights... torrah=3 quran=19 why doesn't the new testament have one? PEACE ps. let me reitterate, *SAYING THAT YOU ARE THE ONE AND ONLY LIVING GOD IS THE ONLY* SIN WORTH TALKING ABOUT** Jesus: I Am Twyll: We Are PEACE again...

01-17-2005, 12:17 AM	#4
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Off to ~E~

01-23-2005, 04:04 AM	#6
deja voodoo Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: here Posts: 392	Just say no to drugs.

01-23-2005, 08:35 AM	#7
Agnostic Theist Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 4,822	Satan and Jesus are also both attributed for existing (almost) as long as God. There is a 'fallen star' reference that alludes to them both and they claimed to be God's first and right hand. Now, either 1.) Jesus is Satan 2.) Satan fucked up and Jesus took over 3.) It's all number 2.

01-24-2005, 10:43 AM	#9
Agnostic Theist Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 4,822	Again, you have no idea what it means to take the Lords name in vain. E.g - That piece of halibut was good enoguh for Iehovah God is not a name, so one can say God 'in vain' refers to pomposity or pretentiousness (arrogance, to cut it short) Basically we are not to compare ourselves to God. We're shit of 'is shoe

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