JesusLovesYou

Stacey,

I don't think you need to worry, I didn't come here to convert anyone. You are cute tho trying to make pick a whatever. I don't think I will be here long either. I just came because this site was mention on the Christian site I go to, and I will be honest I just came to see what you all talked about. I find it amazing that you have so many threads about God, Jesus, etc. when you don't believe in Them. You would think that on your own sites you could find something else to talk about.

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McD

You keep trying to assign some hidden importance to the fact that this is what we talk about. Don't you think that if we lived in a society that was 70% Scientologists, we would be talking about their delusions instead of yours?

JesusLovesYou

[QUOTE]Oh, and who is that? Well it doesn't matter, because it isn't the truth that you seek.

Wow really. Well you would think that on your own site you could control that better. Yes, we talk about Him, because we don't want people to in up in hell. That makes us haters tho, which is confusing to me how out of love for your souled we become haters by trying to show you the way out. Interesting indeed, yep.

Oh I never said this forum was for me. As I told Stacey I just came here to see what you all talked about after hearing about you on a Christian site. It still surprises me that you don't believe but still talk about God and Jesus. So amazing. Or I could say like the atheist at the site I am on say, we are just here because we like to debate or I just wanted you to meet a Christian so you would know that we are all not alike, and to tell you why I believe the way I do. So do you believe those things anymore then I do when they say it?

[QUOTE]McDuffie)Your sentiments are so banal as to be insulting.[QUOTE]

See that is what amazes me. Someone says they love you because of Christ's love, and you find it insulting. But I am not surprise the Bible you don't believe in says that in the last days people will say good is evil and evil is good. It also say that many will follow doctrines that make no since. So you should be happy you are doing just what the Lord said you would do.

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JesusLovesYou

I personally don't have any idea what someone that is deceived by the great deceiver would talk about. My delusions, please remember that statement when you are kneeling before God, and it is to late.


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JesusLovesYou

[QUOTE]Yep, but Barney the Dinosaur didn't die for your sins, and the gift he might have for you is not eternal life in heaven.



I am sorry to hear that you feel you did seek, and didn't find. I don't know you entire story so I would have know idea why you didn't find Jesus. I just know that if you ask Him, He will make Himself real to you, but you have to ask and mean it. With the anger you seem to have I just don't know if you can do that, and that saddens me.


Sorry, I cannot convert to Allah, but your interest in all religions still amazes me. I will get over it tho.



Yep it is unconditional love, but if you don't love Him, and in fact talk against Him why should He save you? Oh, and by the way I do attend church, and have for most of my 49yrs.



Don't know what you want me to say. The way you speak of God, makes me think that for whatever reason you are mad at Him. So since you are mad you now have to say there is no God. I am sorry for whatever happened to you, and that is about all I can say.





Nope don't need to make any deals, because I can pray for all those things at the same time. I am not putting anything ahead of anything, I like so many people can do more then one thing at the same time. So I can pray for you, the children, other countries, people who are sick, etc. all at the same time.

And yes I know what the bible says I have read it, maybe more then you but who knows. It is the understanding of the word that I now seek for, but thank you for reminding me I need to read it more.

Yes, I am honest if I was just living in the flesh like you I would probably be angry like you, but Praise the Lord, I have Jesus to help take away those hateful feeling. It is so wonderful.

I can assure you that you don't care more then me about other people. Just because I am here doesn't stop me from the other thinks I do for other people in this nation and world. Why would you think that I couldn't talk on this site, and still care about others? Please explain how that would even make sense that being here keeps me from praying, giving money, caring, etc. for other people?

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Stacey Melissa

Usually, when people come here and start preaching at us, and telling us what we think, it isn't because they want to see what we talk about.

The main theme of this site is to promote a non-theistic worldview. Given that fact, I don't think it's all that odd to find people, while they're here, frequently discussing ways to debate the opposition. I'm not sure what else you would expect us to focus on while we're here. :huh: Atheism itself certainly doesn't require a lively discussion board to discuss, given that it can be thoroughly described in approximately one short paragraph.

But if you want to see us discussing stuff that is totally unrelated to theism, you'll have to direct your gaze further down the homepage, until you see the links for forums such as The Lounge, Misc. Discussions, and Media & Popular Culture. We're not running around, decrying Jesus every minute of every day. Most of what they say about us in church is a lie. (Yes, I go to church on ocassion, to see friends, as do some of the other atheists here.) We're not denying Jesus for emotional reasons. We're not boogeymen. Sorry if I'm bursting any bubbles.

McD

i'm still waiting for Jesuslovesyou to make a point.

Stacey Melissa

We boast several Christian ministers-turned-atheists in our membership. And people who have been foreign missionaries, and later turned into atheists. They become atheists because they are no longer capable of believing in the existence of the Christian deity, and they see no reason to believe in the existence of any other deities, either. If you care to take the time to read it (it is rather lengthy), you can read the deconversion story of christ-on-a-stick, who wrote in great detail about all the ways she repeatedly tried to seek God, only to find nothing. She desperately wanted to find God, as do some other people around here, but she found nothing.

They tell you in church that atheists are just mad at God, or that we have never truly seeked him. Many atheists here, including myself, can tell you that that is a bold faced lie. We seeked, and seeked, and seeked. We carefully considered the options, and the only thing that turned out to be plausible was atheism. If we're angry, it's not at God, but at religionists and the many things they do to worsen the human condition, in the name of religion. It would be rather silly of us to be angry at a person we didn't think existed, now wouldn't it?

Perhaps because his love is supposed to be unconditional? Why is there the condition that we return his love, if his love is unconditional?

I'm often angered by our country's politicians, but that doesn't cause me to say they don't exist. What makes you think that would happen with God? And what makes you think something happened to Orac to make him/her stop believing in God? If you take a look through the atheist testimony thread, you'll find that the majority of atheists here became atheists for intellectual reasons.

For once, I agree with you.

I know I don't speak for everyone here, but personally, the single biggest positive change in my life was in leaving Christianity and becoming an atheist. It made me much less hateful, much less arrogant, much less gullible, and an all-around better person. And being a Christian doesn't necessarily make someone less angry or hateful. Take a look at Fred Phelps and his congregation of Christians, for example. Jesus sure isn't doing much to take the hate out of them, it seems.

P.S. You don't have to use color tags to make your text black. It automatically shows up that way by default.

Gunnaheave

We need another catagory, "Wrong." When you examine an assertion, it is normally enough to show that it is wrong. Investigating the psychology of the person making it is neither helpful, nor relevant, ...nor feasible in this instance, given the 2,000 years of history that has past since then.

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Angry at God? Not really.

Angry at Christians trying to proclaim dogma as science? Yep. At Christains trying to supplant the Constitution for their delusional idiocy? Oh, my, yes. At Christians trying to tell me what I think, or how I should think? You bet.

Exasperated at Christians babbling about how loving their god is, and in the same breath telling me this "loving" deity is happy to torture me forever if I don't kiss his ring loudly enough? Irritated at how Christians claim their god is all-merciful when their own Bible has their god committing genocide and worse? Tired of the fact that not one thing that comes out of the mouths of Christians has been in any way original?

Yea to all of the above.

Chistians tick me off. God? Nah. How can an imaginary sky fairy make me angry?