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Old 09-29-2009, 05:54 AM   #261
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Satan corrupted the mind of Adam & Eve. I wouldn't say he was in control, but the story tells us that Satan will fool you into thinking you're doing the right thing, when in reality, you're doing evil and wickedness.
If Satan can so easily deceive even those who have a direct personal relationship with God (Adam and Eve), then he can deceive anyone.

How do you know Satan didn't write the Bible as a way to deceive the masses and lead most astray?
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Satan corrupted the mind of Adam & Eve. I wouldn't say he was in control, but the story tells us that Satan will fool you into thinking you're doing the right thing, when in reality, you're doing evil and wickedness.
If Satan can so easily deceive even those who have a direct personal relationship with God (Adam and Eve), then he can deceive anyone.

How do you know Satan didn't write the Bible as a way to deceive the masses and lead most astray?
ESPECIALLY since you've already admitted it's prone to translation errors.

Who would allow that to happen?
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Just look at the evil that is around you in the earth's final days.
If you have studied any history at all you would know that people have been brutalizing each other since the dawn of recorded history.

Christians have believed that they were living in the final days for the last 2000 years, and they will probably be saying it 2000 years from now.
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Yes, that is what I believe, but the moral of my story is, you don't see me "pushing" my belief onto you.

I'm not sitting in here day after day saying "YOU ARE GOING TO BURN IN HELL!!!"

That's just complete nonsense.
The hell story is complete nonsense.
That idea is hell (see my bold).
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I see no evidence for a supernatural, malevolent being known as Satan
Just look at the evil that is around you in the earth's final days.

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But that is what you believe, right? That unbelievers will be tormented forever?
Yes, that is what I believe, but the moral of my story is, you don't see me "pushing" my belief onto you.

I'm not sitting in here day after day saying "YOU ARE GOING TO BURN IN HELL!!!"

That's just complete nonsense.
The fact that you've come to a secular websight to argue your case for god means that you are, in fact, pushing your faith to us. Especially when you ignore people's argument when they are threatening to you, when you don't respond to people who have legitimate issues with your take on things. These things show you aren't here to learn, which means you must think you're here to teach.
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Satan corrupted the mind of Adam & Eve. I wouldn't say he was in control, but the story tells us that Satan will fool you into thinking you're doing the right thing, when in reality, you're doing evil and wickedness.
Why would God allow Satan to corrupt A&E unless God wanted the Fall of Man?
Adam & Eve had two options. Right and wrong. Satan fooled them into believing wrong was right. And the rest is history. If we obey the words of Satan, we will surely die. No life after death? Earthly life? It can be taken into several different meanings.

The point of the ADAM & EVE story is, do not obey Satan because he will decieve you, and you will die.
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Just look at the evil that is around you in the earth's final days.

Yes, that is what I believe, but the moral of my story is, you don't see me "pushing" my belief onto you.

I'm not sitting in here day after day saying "YOU ARE GOING TO BURN IN HELL!!!"

That's just complete nonsense.
The fact that you've come to a secular websight to argue your case for god means that you are, in fact, pushing your faith to us. Especially when you ignore people's argument when they are threatening to you, when you don't respond to people who have legitimate issues with your take on things. These things show you aren't here to learn, which means you must think you're here to teach.
I'm not here teaching or preaching. I'm telling my side, and you're telling yours. I'm not threatening anyone with Hell, or God will show his wrath on atheists. I do no such thing. You are intelligent enough to make your own decisions.
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Why would God allow Satan to corrupt A&E unless God wanted the Fall of Man?
Adam & Eve had two options. Right and wrong. Satan fooled them into believing wrong was right. And the rest is history. If we obey the words of Satan, we will surely die. No life after death? Earthly life? It can be taken into several different meanings.

The point of the ADAM & EVE story is, do not obey Satan because he will decieve you, and you will die.
The problem with your theory is: God is supposed to be all powerful and absolutely sovereign, yet apparently God either wanted the Fall of Man, or God was incapable of stopping Satan. Which is it?

Why would God allow a tempter to influence two people who had no concept of right vs. wrong?

Why must God wait until the end of time to finally throw Satan into hell? It seems God wants to fill hell with the maximum number of souls that he can. Should God not have destroyed Satan immediately at the time of his rebellion?

To be blunt, your Christian mythology has enough plot holes to drive a Kenworth through!
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The problem with your theory is: God is supposed to be all powerful and absolutely sovereign, yet apparently God either wanted the Fall of Man, or God was incapable of stopping Satan. Which is it?
God allowed mankind to make his own choices. Whether those choices are right or wrong.

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Why would God allow a tempter to influence two people who had no concept of right vs. wrong?
huh? They knew they did wrong, that's why they hid their nakedness in front of the LORD.

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Why must God wait until the end of time to finally throw Satan into hell? It seems God wants to fill hell with the maximum number of souls that he can. Should God not have destroyed Satan immediately at the time of his rebellion?
God is permitting enough time so unbelievers can repent.

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To be blunt, your Christian mythology has enough plot holes to drive a Kenworth through!
Christianity is the World's most dominate Religion, and it has been for several centuries. It's funny how the majority of the world's most dominate religion does not see these errors, but a few atheists on the internet see them very clearly? :constern01:
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The point of the ADAM & EVE story is, do not obey Satan because he will decieve you, and you will die.
Or perhaps the moral of the story is that seeking knowledge is evil. Just shut up and believe, and pay your tithes...OR ELSE!

By the way, how do you know Satan did not author the Bible?
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There is archaeological evidence that Nebuchadnezzar reigned in Egypt in 586 B.C.

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Evidence? Citations, please?
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