Originally Posted by Vinnie

"""""You mean there is an official atheist handbook? So it has become a religion...thats incedible. """""""

So if a YMCA has a handbook its a religion?

Schools have student handbooks. Oh the hooror *gasp*. Do these religious institutions break the separation of church and state

I don't expect the author of such illogical statements to be able to rationally evaluate my arguments. Holy anger is all ye doth obtain, amigo.

Vinnie

Originally Posted by Fitz009

If you actually read the thread you would understand that the statement was in keeping with what Toto said, and your response to it. The implication was that atheism had a handbook that set it apart as a religious entity with set boundaries, ones you were not inside of. You responded in like. Whatever I guess logical conclusions are off the wall

Originally Posted by Fitz009

So what, in order to be an unmarried man without a sexual history I now have to declare I am heterosexual to avoid being called homosexual 2000 years from now? Apart from that, Christ called himself the Son of God, and I believe that all can agree with that(statement not its truth, whole nother issue). God clearly condemned homosexuality in several places in the OT, so would it not be a paradox for his son to be one? Even if you are not a believer, wouldn't you agree that Christ would have done everything in his power to present an image in line with God so that he would be believable? Secondly, we are told that Christ was a rabbi, a teacher with a large following. Christ was around his followers in some form or another constantly, and if he was homosexual they would have noticed. This would have proven him not to be God, yet none of them ever make a statement to that effect.

Originally Posted by Vinnie

My article assumes certain critical standards. I will not dialogue with fundamentalist nonsense about Jesus being God's special son. Jesus may have claimed to be God's agent. But it is also known that in your view, Jesus overthrew his prescious daddy's food laws as well. Apparently Jesus felt free to usurp the Torah where he deemed fit.

Vinnie

Originally Posted by Fitz009

You missed the entire point of the argument. I specifically stated that regardless of your or my belief there were certain premises that are basic logic that point out an impossibility for Christ to be homosexual. You ranted about people responding without reading, so actually read the post.

By the way, Christ never once said he came to abolish the law, but in fact stated that he came to fulfill it. And the passage about unclean and clean animals was revealed to Peter in Acts 11 by God, and is metaphorical for allowing Gentiles to become believers. Get your facts straight.

Originally Posted by Toto

Hey guys - the Official Atheist Handbook is a JOKE that seems to have flown over your heads.

Is there any redeeming value in this thread? It is not BCH material.

Originally Posted by Vinnie

Over some people's heads as I wrote:

Vinnie: Of course an "official" atheist handbook really just means "collective atheist opinion".

Originally Posted by Fitz009

I agree with you completely. Although I find it ironic that atheism is a religion, because atheism denies that there is a single fundamental truth for a religion to be centered upon except the fact that there is no truth. Odd.