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Old 04-26-2008, 06:54 AM   #1
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Jeffrey Gibson, I have little interest in your petty squabbling with Charles Gadda over the finer points of Essene theory hegemony as it may have played out in recent organized meetings.
Then why do you bother? Isn't that tantamount to trolling, going into a thread you have no interest in and posting for the sake of posting, and then saying people should discuss what you want? Quit complaining and start a new thread, and if people don't participate, then they don't care to discuss it. Perhaps another venue would be more appropriate, if you hadn't been banned from all the major ones.
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You've seen what Steve wrote to Charles? You've read the whole of the contexts in which Steve uses the word?
Just as a clarification for any poor soul interested, the subject of this tangent was the use of "cabal" by Steve Mason. The fact that such a term is used regarding the closed shop with regard to the Qumran industry is ironic, because it is true and yet to deal with the state of Qumran studies one has to make a joke out of it. And at least one big name dissenter I once talked to has used the same term.
So the answer is no. Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

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Jeffrey Gibson, I have little interest in your petty squabbling with Charles Gadda over the finer points of Essene theory hegemony as it may have played out in recent organized meetings.
Leaving aside the question of whether what's been going on here on a thread about Charles' "beef" with SBL and whether it has any validityis "squabbling", let alone of the petty sort", I think it's pretty safe to say that few here have little interest in hearing that you have little interest in the exchange.

But thanks for letting us know.

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Jeffrey Gibson, I have little interest in your petty squabbling with Charles Gadda over the finer points of Essene theory hegemony as it may have played out in recent organized meetings.
Then why do you bother? Isn't that tantamount to trolling, going into a thread you have no interest in and posting for the sake of posting, and then saying people should discuss what you want? Quit complaining and start a new thread, and if people don't participate, then they don't care to discuss it. Perhaps another venue would be more appropriate, if you hadn't been banned from all the major ones.
I find it quite ironical that "Sanitary Man" would post such an odious comment, when Spin is merely trying to bring this thread back to the interesting issues it ought to be about, and when the combined remarks of Sanitary and Gibson have apparently been aimed at distracting attention from those issues all along. What evidence does "Sanitary" have that Spin has been banned from any site? And how is that even relevant? Is he referring to a "sanitizing" of sites owned and moderated by Jeffrey Gibson? Do such sites even count as bona fide, free and open discussion sites, with all the censorship that apparently goes on in them?
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Then why do you bother? Isn't that tantamount to trolling, going into a thread you have no interest in and posting for the sake of posting, and then saying people should discuss what you want? Quit complaining and start a new thread, and if people don't participate, then they don't care to discuss it. Perhaps another venue would be more appropriate, if you hadn't been banned from all the major ones.
I find it quite ironical that "Sanitary Man" would post such an odious comment, when Spin is merely trying to bring this thread back to the interesting issues it ought to be about, and when the combined remarks of Sanitary and Gibson have apparently been aimed at distracting attention from those issues all along. What evidence does "Sanitary" have that Spin has been banned from any site? And how is that even relevant? Is he referring to a "sanitizing" of sites owned and moderated by Jeffrey Gibson? Do such sites even count as bona fide, free and open discussion sites, with all the censorship that apparently goes on in them?
Speaking of distracting attention from what this thread ought to be about ...

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Well, any irrelevant points you or "Sanitary Man" want to make will be responded to in kind. It's the second time already Sanitary has accused Spin of being "banned" from sites, so I'd like to know if by any chance he's referring to the sites owned and "moderated" by you -- and if he received this important information, used here in a vicious ad hominem manner, from you.
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Well, any irrelevant points you or "Sanitary Man" want to make will be responded to in kind. It's the second time already Sanitary has accused Spin of being "banned" from sites, so I'd like to know if by any chance he's referring to the sites owned and "moderated" by you -- and if he received this important information, used here in a vicious ad hominem manner, from you.
So ... you'd like to know about purported personal communication I've had with someone mentioned on this list, would you? Hmm. I seem to recall that when I asked you if you'd let us know if you had been in private/off list communication with Norman Golb, you told me that that was an off limits question.

But I'm happy to tell you if I've ever banned Spin from any list I own and moderate if you first answer mine about whether you've ever been in touch with, and had communications/messages of any kind from, Norman Golb.

BTW, how can stating a "fact" about a person be an ad hominem, let alone a vicious one? And if such it is, may I note that your messages, chock full as they are with all sorts of accusations of (the Golbian charge of) "mendacity" on the part of others, show how much you work from a double standard when it comes to saying what people should and should not do on this list.

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Then why do you bother? Isn't that tantamount to trolling,...
[5] Troll is an insult. Accuse someone of trolling and it will be edited. (This applies to all variants, including "DNFTT.") (Rule 1, 1b).

Umm, moderators?

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...going into a thread you have no interest in and posting for the sake of posting, and then saying people should discuss what you want? Quit complaining and start a new thread, and if people don't participate, then they don't care to discuss it. Perhaps another venue would be more appropriate, if you hadn't been banned from all the major ones.
I find it quite ironical that "Sanitary Man" would post such an odious comment
Nobody else here would. But it's just part of the rites of puberty. Here's the laziest approach:
  1. Go to his user profile;
  2. Click "Add Solitary Man to Your Ignore List".


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[5] Troll is an insult. Accuse someone of trolling and it will be edited. (This applies to all variants, including "DNFTT.") (Rule 1, 1b).

Umm, moderators?
Is a question about how your behaviour can be characterized the same thing as calling you a troll?


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I find it quite ironical that "Sanitary Man" would post such an odious comment
Nobody else here would. But it's just part of the rites of puberty.

b) Users are not permitted to post derogatory comments about other users

Umm ... moderators?

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[5] Troll is an insult. Accuse someone of trolling and it will be edited. (This applies to all variants, including "DNFTT.") (Rule 1, 1b).

Umm, moderators?
Is a question about how your behaviour can be characterized the same thing as calling you a troll?
From Rhetoric 101. Shove it in a question.

Feigned innocence is unbecoming.

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Nobody else here would. But it's just part of the rites of puberty.

b) Users are not permitted to post derogatory comments about other users

Umm ... moderators?
Also from Rhetoric 101. Try not to seem like a copycat.
From Rhetoric 102. Don't direct derogatory comments against people.

I'm sure Solitary Man knows how to speak for himself... though I guess few people actually read his comments.


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