makerowner

First of all, it was never in the sea. Just cause your prophecy says so doesn't mean it happened. Second, are you denying that it was rebuilt? Because that's a claim that you could easily check, then you would have saved me the trouble of having to respond.

Jack the Bodiless

And you continue to be wrong.

There aren't any verifiably-fulfilled prophecies in the Bible (that's why you haven't been able to find any). Which leaves nothing to offset the failed prophecies (Tyre, Egypt, Babylon, imminent 2nd coming etc), or the various other categories of Biblical error: historical and scientific errors (Genesis creation, Noachian Flood, Tower of Babel, Exodus etc etc), internal contradictions, and so on.

Sheshonq

Wasn't necessary. Alexander didn't destroy the entire city, and they rebuilt on top of the same island real estate.

Sheshonq

That's not arnoldo's way of debating. He tosses out claims that he doesn't research or even think about, and I guess he figures that if nobody contradicts him then his claim must be true.

Life must be great in a world where "argument" means "wishful claim", and all the research work is supposed to be done by your opponent - but you yourself are happily exempt from any such intellectual labor.

Sheshonq

You have a whole thread already existing, where you've failed to prove that.

Every time someone points out that inconvenient fact, you run away.

Do you realize how much damage you do to christian credibility by acting that way?

arnoldo

Who rebuilt on the same island real estate? Romans? Muslims? In contrast who has rebuilt Jerusalem after it's destructions? Answer: Jews.

More proof that the book of Ezekiel contradicts itself. Was the King of Tyrus ever in the Garden of Eden?

Tyrus was an ancient powerful city/state perhaps dating as far back as 3000 BC. After Ezekiel prophesied it's destruction it never became a political/military power like it was in the past. History has proven this.

Sheshonq

No, Phoenicians.

Not that it matters, since Ezekiel's prophecy doesn't say that it wouldn't be built by Phoenicians any more. It simply says "built no more". You are trying to add restrictions on the prophecy that don't exist in the original text.

If that's your answer, then your answer is: wrong. I already detailed this.


Also wrong.

Edited to add: your Funk & Wagnalls citation does nothing to prove your claim, refute mine, or support/contradict anyone else's claim. It's unclear why you even inserted it at all. It looks like you just quickly grabbed an online citation, but didn't bother to connect it to any part of your argument. Again.

Jack the Bodiless

Arnoldo, when are you going to stop making stuff up?

Tyre was "rebuilt" (or, rather, repaired: as it wasn't destroyed) by the Tyrians. History records that Alexander spared some, and also that 15,000 escaped by sea to Sidon (and presumably there would have been some Tyrians outside the city when Alexander attacked it).

And Tyre did indeed become an independent and powerful city-state again (it never was a significant military power, it was a trading port).

Nowadays, it's the 4th largest city in Lebanon: probably more populous and with a larger economy than it ever had in antiquity.

Jack the Bodiless

BTW:
You posted this after I had already pointed out that Antigonus beseiged Tyre 18 years after Alexander (specifically, this was Antigonus I Monophthalmus). Now, you could have looked this up for yourself.

...And maybe saved yourself some embarrassment.

So, how did the Romans (who hadn't yet expanded beyond the Italian peninsula) or the Muslims (followers of a religion invented some nine centuries later) have been in Tyre at this time?

Several times, you've been advised to spend just 10 seconds to check your posts for obvious nonsense such as this.

spin

For clarity, Tyre was never a political or military power. It was a tiny rich trading center. Predicting that it would stop being one is a no-boner. In fact, so few ancient cities of the fertile crescent have survived, a prediction that a certain city would survive would have been more credible in our time. In fact, Tyre is one of those that survived, despite the Ezekiel prediction.

Yet another secondary source that clarifies that Tyre is the island.


spin