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Old 05-11-2005, 03:55 AM   #1
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The controversies raging around evolution and creationism are moot.
A proper understanding of the Biblical text reveals that there is not contradiction between the Biblical record of events and the findings of evolution.

Naturally such a proper understanding is not easy to come by as it necessitates a complete re-evaluation of the Biblical text.

And it seems unlikely that those here have much hands-on experience with the Bible itself. But let us determine that for ourselves.

Are there any who are interested in exploring the Biblical Creation story?

The Truth shall boggle your mind,

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What do you mean? Could you cite something? The story of creation is pretty clear, seven days with specific things happening each day. The only way for the bible to support evolution would be for something to completely and utterly contradict that (and demonstrate that, as all reasonable people have long ago realised, it's not a literal account of what happened). It doesn't strike me as something that would go unnoticed for so long. So, once again, what are you talking about?
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Firstly, a very warm welcome to you, Gnostradamus! :wave:
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The controversies raging around evolution and creationism are moot.
Erm, no they are not. But okay for now, if you say so...
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A proper understanding of the Biblical text reveals that there is not contradiction between the Biblical record of events and the findings of evolution.
Ah, "a proper understanding", eh? Trouble is, who's to say what is the proper one? Y'see, fundamentalist creationists think theirs is the proper one.
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Naturally such a proper understanding is not easy to come by as it necessitates a complete re-evaluation of the Biblical text.
"Re-evaluation", as in 're-ordering of the events', and a re-alisation that there is only really one 'kind', since all living things are related via descent with modification...?
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And it seems unlikely that those here have much hands-on experience with the Bible itself.
I suspect you'll find you are rather wrong on that. Hint: please don't presuppose the experience and expertise of the posters here -- they will constantly surprise you.
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But let us determine that for ourselves.
Is that the Royal 'we', or the divine plural as in Gen 1:26, 3:22 etc? :Cheeky:
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Are there any who are interested in exploring the Biblical Creation story?
Depends. What hypotheses does it offer, and how might we test them?

Tell you what: I'll listen to your story if you'll listen to the Inuit, Shinto, Aztec, Greek, Aborigine and Hindu ones, and can tell us why yours is the true one .
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Yep, it does mine. Did you know that the mitochondria inside all our cells are derived from free-living bacteria, and that their closest living relative is the thing that causes epidemic typhus? True, and it blows my mind every time!

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Just a quicky: when God "made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind" and "saw that it was good" (Gen 1:25), does that include spotted hyaenas?
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Just a quicky: when God "made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind" and "saw that it was good" (Gen 1:25), does that include spotted hyaenas?
I think that it is supposed to say and "saw that it was food". That would have been far more profound.
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I guess a case could be made looking at Gen 1:11 and 1:24 where God says "let the Earth bring forth" plant life and animal life respectively?

But then we still have the problem that the Earth was created BEFORE the Sun which contridicts everything we know about astro physics. Come to think of it the Earth was created even before the "firmament" which presumably is all the rest of the universe?
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I think that it is supposed to say and "saw that it was food". That would have been far more profound.
A genuine 'LOL'! :notworthy
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Is this going to be another case of "day-age" apologetics, with the Sun and Moon "appearing when the atmosphere became transparent"?
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A genuine 'LOL'! :notworthy
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Is this going to be another case of "day-age" apologetics, with the Sun and Moon "appearing when the atmosphere became transparent"?
Heehee!

But let's give the guy a chance (aka enough rope ) -- it's only his first post, and we don't want it to be his last.

IOW, we're all ears, Gnostradamus. Let's have your story!
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