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Old 08-28-2004, 11:30 PM   #11
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So...let's play your game:

We'll pretend that we only know god's morals by what he tells us he doesn't want us to do.(Thou shalt not lie, I believe was your example) We'll even pretend he doesn't want us to do the things he explicitly gives us license to do.

How do you handle: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

(Thou shalt not lie?) Sounds like you ought to be out roasting some wiccans right now Inq. right? Using your logic, we KNOW god doesn't approve of you suffering witches to live right now....just like he wouldn't aprove if you lied right now....

Or is that one of those "man-made" and not inspired bits of the bible? I REALLY wish you'd publish that list sometime.

"Thy will be done on Earth and in Heaven." If you don't agree with that, that's up to you. Also, if this is a game to you, perhaps PlayStation or something similar would suffice?
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So by this logic, Jesus being pinwheeled to the cross was entirely justified, or is this law only pertinent to non-Christian prophets?
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"Should the aim of such a one (some notable person laying claim to the character and authority of the prophetic office) be to seduce the people from the worship of the true God, he is an impostor and must be put to death (according to the law)."
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"He (Jesus) possessed all the characteristics of a true prophet, and He was so far from alienating the people from God and His worship that the grand object of His ministry was to lead a purer, more spiritual and perfect observance of the law."
Therefore, this law (and capital punishment) was only justified for those prophets who alienated people from God . . . NOT for those, such as Jesus, who led people to God.
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Therefore, this law (and capital punishment) was only justified for those prophets who alienated people from God . . . NOT for those, such as Jesus, who led people to God.
I believe what is needed to be explained: Was this law dictated by man as to which God was the true God, or was this law directly proclaimed by the true God Himself?
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Therefore, this law (and capital punishment) was only justified for those prophets who alienated people from God . . . NOT for those, such as Jesus, who led people to God.
Like an early Inquisition?
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I believe what is needed to be explained: Was this law dictated by man as to which God was the true God, or was this law directly proclaimed by the true God Himself?

See Deuteronomy 1:1. There's also an introduction to Deuteronomy at the address below:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_d...6295-1009.html

The God (with a capital "G") referred to in Deuteronomy would be the God of Moses.
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See Deuteronomy 1:1. There's also an introduction to Deuteronomy at the address below:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_d...6295-1009.html

The God (with a capital "G") referred to in Deuteronomy would be the God of Moses.
Do you realize that Moses was a bad guy who led the children of Israel into the promised land where they did not belong?

Did you know that they remained children of Israel and wandered for 40 years to die nonetheless because they failed to mature on account of their saved sinner paradox?

Do you realize that manna is bread from heaven but that it was second hand to them and therefore withered with the dying of each day?

Did you know that it is wrong to "part the waters" and just force yourself into the promised land but that, instead, we must learn to "walk on water" first?

Do you still see a capital G there?
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Do you realize that Moses was a bad guy who led the children of Israel into the promised land where they did not belong?

Did you know that they remained children of Israel and wandered for 40 years to die nonetheless because they failed to mature on account of their saved sinner paradox?

Do you realize that manna is bread from heaven but that it was second hand to them and therefore withered with the dying of each day?

Did you know that it is wrong to "part the waters" and just force yourself into the promised land but that, instead, we must learn to "walk on water" first?

Do you still see a capital G there?
Yep and not only that but that also allowing the Pharaoh to "follow" them..since he "looked back" like Lot's wife.
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Yep and not only that but that also allowing the Pharaoh to "follow" them..since he "looked back" like Lot's wife.
Still flirting with the world, wasn't he? 'This as they say, "flesh begets flesh" and always will.
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Still flirting with the world, wasn't he? 'This as they say, "flesh begets flesh" and always will.
Agreed..but alas there is no unity between Christ and Baal so the law "broke" and had to be given again because he though otherwise.
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Agreed..but alas there is no unity between Christ and Baal so the law "broke" and had to be given again because he though otherwise.
No comment for now but does that make Moses one of those who should have been killed for misleading the flock? Wasn't he America's idol and don't they name Christian bookstores "Manna" as well?
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