Secular Pinoy

Well, I think there is some shift in the intent of the OP to shiva's new position. In the OP shiva said the many right wing bible waggers also condemn cannabis. I doubt that those "bible waggers" condemn cannabis in all its forms. Do they really disapprove of the consumption of cannabis, or perhaps the usage of hemp plant fibers for clothes and ropes? I think they are primarily, and perhaps exclusively, concerned with its use as an "intoxicating hallucinogenic drug."

DM was right in questioning the validity of the assertion in the OP, and shiva may have subtly changed his/her assertion to dodge that criticism.

-DM-

Thank you SP. Good point. I got caught up in the ongoing discussion and overlooked this shift.

Also, if someone is going to support the use of cannabis (whether for food or any other purpose) on the basis of the Bible verse "God gave every seed bearing plant to man" then the least that one could do would be to quote the entire verse, including the "it shall be food for you" portion.

Which brings up another point: any "God" who said such a thing would need to explain how poisonous plants such as hemlock, buckeye pod, nightshade, and oleander fit into "His" idea of what is and is not food.

-Don-

Tristan Scott

IMO the best argument that Christianity is pro-abortion is what is not in canon instead of what is. Most of the arguments for and against based on what is written in scripture skirt around the issue to one degree or another. At the time the Christian bible was collated abortion was actually a significant issue among the flock and the Romans. There was a very popular piece of scripture, known as the Apochalypse of Peter, that specifically mentioned abortion, condemning it. The Church Fathers rejected this scripture even though it was said to be second in popularity next to the 4th Gospel. This was done, supposedly, under the guidance of God himself.

shivalinga

views of the family research council on cannabis/hemp products

http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25...shnia2510.html

who is the family research council

http://www.theroc.org/roc-mag/textar...3/roc13-13.htm

the whole shebang

http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm


stuff on real politik and the elites use of
"judeo-christian" values as being synonomous
with americcan values, and biblical correctness(is that
a new term ?), for the political support of the vested interests
in their corporate/ govmnt beauracracy/intel agencies/criminal
syndacites nexus of corruption that are this world's economic
elites.

the use of judeo christian dogma as a form of propaganda
to gain politcal support and popular sympathy for their
otherwise fascist,anti freedom, anti human agenda.

Cannabis and other drug prohibition has an economic influence
including the investments in the prison industrial complex,
the heroin and cocaine industry that was created and used
by intel agencies in league with the criminal cartels
for massive profits(nugan hand scandal)(nicaragua scandal)
then there is the drug war industry,some 500 billion a year
world wide spent .(including kickbacks, bribes etc)

the fear is that the world economy has grown dependent
on the black market, drugs,gambling etc,
account for a huge portion of money that substains
the markets, keeping all this going is paramount to the
investor class.


http://garciapublicaffairs.com/A%20R...g%20Primer.htm

http://www.karisable.com/crpro.htm

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...omy/index.html

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/20...gs_dollars.htm

http://www.pa-chouvy.org/drugtradeinasia.html#triangle

EGGO

I never done any sort of drug in my entire life, but I heard of pot brownies. And if they're anything like those lovely tasty brownies...they're food right?

-DM-

Go back a few posts, you will find that I learned something myself about cannabis as a food..

-Don-

shivalinga

hemp products were the original reason
for cannabis prohibition.

http://www.zpub.com/sf/history/will2.html



http://www.hempworld.com/hemp-cyberf...nspiracy1.html

EGGO

Oooh, sorry, I guess I thought it was a post of yours I already read so I skipped over.

Sloppy sloppy...

perpetua

Hello from your friendly neighborhood bible wagger.... Romans 13:1-2 States...Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The Authorities that exhist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against Authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgement on themselves...
So..as long as it is illegal whether or not it's "food" is irrelevant. Now, if it becomes legal then you can contend with the issue of it being a drug..in which case I refer you to Rev. 9:21,18:23,21:8 and 22:15..each make reference to the word sorcery in one form or another and each are derived from original greek ..pharmakeus or pharmakos..ie drugs...Strongs Exhaustive Bible Concordance .....so no matter how you twist it ..ya can't biblically back it

Tristan Scott

so then likewise with abortion, since it is legal, then it must also be sanctioned by God, ney?