Freethought & Rationalism Archive

Malachi151 · 06-30-2005, 04:25 AM

I just finished reading Exodus (the book that tells the story of Moses leading the people from Egypt, which contains the story of the Ten Commandments)

What REALLY, REALLY pisses me off now, is that obviously every single idiot out there, INCLUDING the Supreme Court, has apparently never even read the Bible, or has failed to make sense of it (big suprize).

In the story of the Ten Commandments, Moses goes to the Mountian and then God SPEAKS SOME commandments directly to the people.

After that, then Moses goes back up to the Mountian and THEN God creates two stome tables, with writing on front and back, that contian the LAWS of the people. These are not the comandments, the laws say things like "man shal not lay with a beast or he will be put to death", "If you work on the Sabbath you will be put to death", "If two people are fighting and they accidently but into a pregant woman, and its the second moon phase, and they aren't wearing sandles, and she has a msicariage, and you throw the bones, then you will be put to death", etc (joking about the last one)

That is the two stone tables that Moses brings down from the Mountian, NOT the so called Ten Commandments, but it get's even better than this.

After Moses brings down those tablets, he sees the people worshiping the golden calf so he breaks the tablets, then goes about killing everyone to make God happy.

So far the words Ten COmmandments have not been used in the Bible.

THEN, after that, then God instructs him to Moses to get two new stone tablets, which he will write on to replace the two that he broke.

Quote:

Exodus 34
The New Stone Tablets
1 The LORD said to Moses, "Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke. 2 Be ready in the morning, and then come up on Mount Sinai. Present yourself to me there on top of the mountain. 3 No one is to come with you or be seen anywhere on the mountain; not even the flocks and herds may graze in front of the mountain."

4 So Moses chiseled out two stone tablets like the first ones and went up Mount Sinai early in the morning, as the LORD had commanded him; and he carried the two stone tablets in his hands. 5 Then the LORD came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the LORD. 6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, "The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation."

8 Moses bowed to the ground at once and worshiped. 9 "O Lord, if I have found favor in your eyes," he said, "then let the Lord go with us. Although this is a stiff-necked people, forgive our wickedness and our sin, and take us as your inheritance."

10 Then the LORD said: "I am making a covenant with you. Before all your people I will do wonders never before done in any nation in all the world. The people you live among will see how awesome is the work that I, the LORD, will do for you. 11 Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 12 Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land where you are going, or they will be a snare among you. 13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles. [a] 14 Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

15 "Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.

17 "Do not make cast idols.

18 "Celebrate the Feast of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Abib, for in that month you came out of Egypt.

19 "The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
"No one is to appear before me empty-handed.

21 "Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.

22 "Celebrate the Feast of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Feast of Ingathering at the turn of the year. [b] 23 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign LORD, the God of Israel. 24 I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the LORD your God.

25 "Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Feast remain until morning.

26 "Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the LORD your God.
"Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk."

27 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel." 28 Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.

THAT is the Ten Commandments!

So WTF, these damned Christians are getting all up and crazy about their stupid Ten COmmandments, and they don't even have their own story straight, bug F*ing suprize!!!

What I want to know is, #1 how come the justices haven't pointed this out. #2 How come no one in the media has pointed this out. #3 How come no Jews have stepped forward to point this out. #4 Do ANY Christians read their Bible?

Damn this pisses me off because these bastards are junking up our legal system with a story they they don't even have right themselves.

I agree with posting the real Ten Commandments, let's post them everywhere so that the Christians can be laughed out the door!

Bastards!

Mickie · 06-30-2005, 04:49 AM

Which Bible and which ten commandments?

http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/whichcom.htm

rationalOne · 06-30-2005, 04:55 AM

There's also the article, The Ten Commandments -- Hang 'Em All on the American Atheists website.

Rhaedas · 06-30-2005, 04:57 AM

Plus, as an aside, God first tells Moses to chisel out new tablets and God will write the commandments. Then at the end, he tells Moses to write them. Not only a jealous god, but indecisive.

Rudolph · 06-30-2005, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhaedas

Plus, as an aside, God first tells Moses to chisel out new tablets and God will write the commandments. Then at the end, he tells Moses to write them. Not only a jealous god, but indecisive.

...and lazy!!

Matt the Medic · 06-30-2005, 06:17 AM

mod note: ...and we're moving to BC&H, hang on.

intrepidation, pd mod

lpetrich · 06-30-2005, 07:36 AM

The Ten Commandments -- Hang 'Em All

Yes, including the one about the wickedness of boiling a baby goat in its mother's milk. I can't wait until all the scriptural percussionists start explaining what profound significance that teaching has.

Malachi151 · 06-30-2005, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhaedas

Plus, as an aside, God first tells Moses to chisel out new tablets and God will write the commandments. Then at the end, he tells Moses to write them. Not only a jealous god, but indecisive.

Yeah, I noticed that too.

Malachi151 · 06-30-2005, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickie

Which Bible and which ten commandments?

http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/whichcom.htm

Even this misses the point though, because the so-called first 10C were never callled the 10C and were never put down on stone tablets at all. What Moses smashed was not "the first 10C", but rather what Moses smashed as the CODE OF LAWS, which was like 100 different laws.

The so-called First 10C was purely spoken by god to the Jews, and was never written down, according to the story, which of course makes no sense, because of course they are written in teh story, but anyway, no bible story makes sense.

Bwana · 06-30-2005, 08:26 AM

There was 15 commandments but Mel Brooks dropped and broke the tablet that had 5 of them.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

06-30-2005, 04:49 AM	#2
Mickie Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SW Ohio, USA Posts: 1,270	Which Bible and which ten commandments? http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/whichcom.htm

06-30-2005, 04:55 AM	#3
rationalOne Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pennsylvania USA Posts: 1,773	There's also the article, The Ten Commandments -- Hang 'Em All on the American Atheists website.

06-30-2005, 04:57 AM	#4
Rhaedas Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,440	Plus, as an aside, God first tells Moses to chisel out new tablets and God will write the commandments. Then at the end, he tells Moses to write them. Not only a jealous god, but indecisive.

06-30-2005, 06:17 AM	#6
Matt the Medic Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,584	mod note: ...and we're moving to BC&H, hang on. intrepidation, pd mod

06-30-2005, 07:36 AM	#7
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	The Ten Commandments -- Hang 'Em All Yes, including the one about the wickedness of boiling a baby goat in its mother's milk. I can't wait until all the scriptural percussionists start explaining what profound significance that teaching has.

06-30-2005, 08:26 AM	#10
Bwana Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 144	There was 15 commandments but Mel Brooks dropped and broke the tablet that had 5 of them.

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.