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Jet Black · 12-12-2005, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by premjan

It is kind of odd to have a stochastic law that works for many molecules but apparently does not have to work at the subatomic level. It is as if some level of description suddenly emerged (emergent behavior). Is there a more detailed explanation for this emergence?

you're basically asking how classical behaviour emerges from quantum behaviour. we don't know yet.

buckshot23 · 12-12-2005, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FatherMithras

There's a word in Hebrew for disk and a word for sphere. Disc was used. Whoever is telling you about Hebrew seems to be an idiot or... nonexistent.

Well what are they!? Sphere = duwr?

HRG · 12-12-2005, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by espritch

Greater order locally is allowed by thermodynamics provided the overall entrophy of the system increases. The decreased entrophy in living systems on Earth is more than balanced out by the increased entrophy of the Sun as hydrogen is converted into other elements.

Sorry, that's not correct. What "more than balances" the entropy decrease in living systems on Earth is the thermal radiation of the Earth (at 300 K) into deep space (at 3K).

The thermal radiation of the sun (at 6000 K) carries entropy from the sun to the earth; thus it is on the wrong side of the balance.

Regards, HRG.

buckshot23 · 12-12-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by buckshot23

Well what are they!? Sphere = duwr?

Fathermithras could you answer this? Does duwr mean sphere?

02-23-2006, 09:10 PM

Greetings,

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Originally Posted by show_no_mercy

Looks like you're wrong... unless pi really IS 3 and we've all been fooled by the devil.

Hmm.
But Pi IS 3.

(To 1 significant figure, which is all that is given.)

Iasion

Aquila_Geminus · 02-23-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrible Heresy

Needless to say, you have managed to type a bullcrap to word ratio of nearly 1 to 1 in your post.

Ha, I love that

Aquila_Geminus · 02-23-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountain Man

This board is for Atheists, not christians, so I would hope most do not believe a word of the bible.

Eww. That sounds alot like what you typically hear on a religiously oriented board, flipped.

Aquila_Geminus · 02-24-2006, 12:39 AM

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OK. How about these: In the OT book of Leviticus the Bible says that the life of the Blood is in the flesh. Man did not always "know" this. Look at the 18th Century when bleeding was a common practice. Leviticus 17:11 "For the life of the flesh is in the blood,"

Finally, now I have a way to contribute to the "Most ridiculous thing you have ever heard a christian say" thread.

I'm ...not even sure what he is trying to say. And what does the 18th century have to do with anything? The bible was written before that 9like 35 centuries before, at least the part he is quoting). I keep reading it over and over trying to figure out what this guy could possibly mean. So why is he insinuating that people in the 18th century were ignorant of it?

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The earth hangs on nothing. This has most certainly never always been know by man just look at Greek mythology about the earth being on the back of a turtle.

You generally don't judge a society from a historical viewpoint on it's mythologies, but rather it's advances. That is why 2,000 years from now, two people musing on the 20th century will be discussing the internal combustion engine and quantum physics and the internet...and not chirstianity.

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The Bible tells us the earth is a sphere and circular in form. If you believe this to be something man has always known then you must have skipped school

Actually the Greeks were the first (on record) to conclude that the earth was a sphere, using logic and mathematics, namely Pythagorus and Aristotle. And the men who wrote the bible (new Testament) did not garner what scant scientific knowledge they possesed from God. They were the learned men of their society and they studied Aristotle.

Considering that they had access to God almighty as a resource of knowledge, funny that they believed that the earth was the center of the universe. You know. Just like Aristotle.

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When the book of Hebrews was written there were no telescopes but yet Paul wrote Hebrews 1:2 "has at the end of these days spoken to us in his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds"

Not sure what you mean by telescopes, but if by "worlds" you mean other planets...this might come as a surprise but you don't need a telescope to see many of the planets (not to mention the moon). Here's a model of the solar system put forth by Pythagoras (500 BC):

Note that the verse you quoted from Hebrews dates from roughly 50....AD.

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and it also tells us the Ocean has paths something we didn't find out till Matthew Perry-Gulf Stream and the Japenes current and all the other currents the seas have (Psalm 8:8)

Eh...I'm pretty sure even the ealiest seafaring civilizations were well aware of ocean currents and seaways. They were vital for trade.

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So please feel free to mock but why not show some facts so we can debate this in a scholarly manner.

This guy is long gone, isn't he...?

Oolon Colluphid · 02-24-2006, 01:25 AM

Another Lazarus thread, eh...?

Aquila_Geminus · 02-24-2006, 10:10 AM

Yeah didn't really look at the dates until I was done.

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