sugarhitman

The point is the critics cannot be incorrect, for them the Tyre prophecy must be wrong because if what Jesus and the Bible says is true......

juergen

The point is the [ETA: fundamentalist] believers cannot be incorrect, for them the Tyre prophecy must be true because if what Jesus and the Bible says is wrong...

ETA: There are a whole lot of other problems critics have with the Bible. The Tyre prophecy not being fulfilled is just one. If Tyre's destiny equaled the one described in the Bible, that would not magically clear up the other problems, neither would it automatically make true what Jesus and the Bible are said to say (there are differing opinions on what the Bible says about a whole lot of stuff between Christians).

Amaleq13

... in direct contradiction to the explicit prediction, Tyre continues to exist to this very day. All attempts to suggest otherwise have, to date, been as laughable as they are strained.

sugarhitman

Ezekiel predicted that Tyre the once great nation of trading would become a mere fishing site. Say what you will but this is exactly what Tyre has become today. Fishing is it's main economic activity. After he predicted that it would be diminished by the nations (it was diminished as the mainland city is gone, right to this day the beach on the mainland is a place for the spreading of nets.) it would become a fishing site. And after this, a place that can only be found and seen.....by a deep sea submarine.

Jack the Bodiless

Tyre has always been a "fishing site", but is certainly not a "mere" fishing site. And I doubt that fishing is now the main economic activity of a city of 100,000 people with a not-especially-large port!

And Ezekiel didn't just predict that it would be "diminished by the nations", he made numerous specific predictions that failed.

Why can't you just admit that the prophecy failed?

arnoldo

So your argument is that modern day Tyre is basically the same city/state that existed 4000 years ago?

sugarhitman

Tyre was a great nation that traded many goods and became rich because of it. Trading was its primary and main economic activity whereas today its main economic activity is fishing. Ezekiel was living during the days of Tyre and Tyre was not a place for the spraeding of nets it was a place for the spreading of trade. And answer me this if the nations were predicted as destroying Tyre completely...then why does God says it will be destroyed when He bury it in the sea? How can you do that against something that has already been destroyed or was to be destroyed by men? Common sense it appears is absent from the mind of critics. :wave:

Jack the Bodiless

Is all this waffling intended to distract us from the fact that what Ezekiel specifically predicted never actually happened?

And Tyre is probably wealthier now (in real terms) than it ever was in antiquity. Industrial revolution and all that.

arnoldo

True, Nebby never had a navy and wasn't able to attack the Island Tyre.

Sheshonq

Amazing claim. Let's see the proof. The Ezekiel quote is not proof.