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sotto voce · 05-25-2012, 01:23 PM

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The central importance of sacrifice is found in the stories of Adam and Eve, of Cain and Abel, of Noah, of the promise to Abraham, of Abraham and Isaac, the promises to Isaac and Jacob, the pre-figurement of Joseph, the Passover in Egypt

do you really believe that when the jews were burning animals to god they saw that they were burning god to god/ jesus' bloody murder?

do you really believe that yhwh accepted thier offerings because he saw that the jews had yhwhs murder in mind when they made their sacrifices?

yhwh did not like cains vegetables because they were not the BEST of his vegetables.nothing to do with blood or flesh.everything to do with quality.

Re-write this without personal pronouns. It's off topic as it is.

la70119 · 05-25-2012, 10:42 PM

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do you really believe that when the jews were burning animals to god they saw that they were burning god to god/ jesus' bloody murder?

do you really believe that yhwh accepted thier offerings because he saw that the jews had yhwhs murder in mind when they made their sacrifices?

yhwh did not like cains vegetables because they were not the BEST of his vegetables.nothing to do with blood or flesh.everything to do with quality.

Re-write this without personal pronouns. It's off topic as it is.

Mr Sonic has a point there, Sotto Voce.

sotto voce · 05-26-2012, 03:51 AM

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do you really believe that when the jews were burning animals to god they saw that they were burning god to god/ jesus' bloody murder?

do you really believe that yhwh accepted thier offerings because he saw that the jews had yhwhs murder in mind when they made their sacrifices?

yhwh did not like cains vegetables because they were not the BEST of his vegetables.nothing to do with blood or flesh.everything to do with quality.

Re-write this without personal pronouns. It's off topic as it is.

Mr Sonic has a point there, Sotto Voce.

Indeed, he has. Inability to ask a question without loading it. No need for another answer, eh.

Unless he's busy elsewhere, and will phrase his question in a polite, scholarly and non-suicidal manner on his return.

Toto · 05-26-2012, 11:39 AM

When sotto voce can't answer a question, he attacks the questioner's personal style and/or capitalization of words.

It's a mere display of ego-based internet verbal combat. And it's getting old.

sotto voce · 05-26-2012, 11:57 AM

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your version

Off topic!

sotto voce · 05-26-2012, 11:58 AM

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When sotto voce can't answer a question

Ask me a question, Toto. On topic.

No personal pronouns, of course.

Toto · 05-26-2012, 12:07 PM

OK here's a question for sotto voce:

Are there any true Christians in the world today, and how did they discover the real meaning of Christianity?

sotto voce · 05-26-2012, 12:09 PM

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OK here's a question for sotto voce:

Are there any true Christians in the world today, and how did they discover the real meaning of Christianity?

Which topic is that on?

Toto · 05-26-2012, 12:19 PM

Here's your topic:

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Allah the Merciful and All-knowing is just a teensy bit slow to put people out of their misery, isn't he.

You point out the absurdity of the Islamic narrative, but what about about the absurdity of the Christian narrative?

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That little monkey Paul upsets sundry Jews, silversmiths and even fat patricians, ferchrissakes, with his talk of the offence of the cross;

So how can this be known? Is the Acts of the Apostles a true story? That's not what Paul says about upsetting people.

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while Allah sits back for six hundred years before telling us, "Sorry, a little misunderstanding."

What does Allah claim to be a misunderstanding, and on who's part?

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Then follows much bloodshed in getting the revised version into circulation, though of course still held to be deeply suspicious by survivors. Now we get the final proof, 1400 years later. Just brilliant. The forethought. The strategy. What a merciful and wise deity.

Compare and contrast to the Christian narrative. How much blood was shed over differing versions of the Trinity? Where is the final proof? What conclusion can be drawn about these various deities?

sotto voce · 05-26-2012, 12:42 PM

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Here's your topic:

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Allah the Merciful and All-knowing is just a teensy bit slow to put people out of their misery, isn't he.

You point out the absurdity of the Islamic narrative, but what about about the absurdity of the Christian narrative?

If the Christian narrative is absurd, it is not going to be affected by this new discovery.

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That little monkey Paul upsets sundry Jews, silversmiths and even fat patricians, ferchrissakes, with his talk of the offence of the cross;

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So how can this be known?

How can anything be known? The fact is that billions of people are 'signed up' to believing it. And it can be hardly credible to them that deity would have made not one blunder, but two, in delaying telling people that there was no offence of the cross.

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Is the Acts of the Apostles a true story? That's not what Paul says about upsetting people.

'Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling-block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles.' 1 Co 1:22-23 NIV, the best-selling Bible translation, of one of the world's most consistent best-sellers.

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while Allah sits back for six hundred years before telling us, "Sorry, a little misunderstanding."

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What does Allah claim to be a misunderstanding

That Jesus died.

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and on who's part?

Everyone who had accepted the New Testament in the early 7th century.

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Then follows much bloodshed in getting the revised version into circulation, though of course still held to be deeply suspicious by survivors. Now we get the final proof, 1400 years later. Just brilliant. The forethought. The strategy. What a merciful and wise deity.

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Compare and contrast to the Christian narrative.

Why?

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How much blood was shed over differing versions of the Trinity?

Trinitarianism is polytheism. Not that it's anything to do with the thread. The sober fact is that Allah's men had to fight battles at the average rate of one every other year for 160 years to correct his error. And still did not convince.

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Where is the final proof? What conclusion can be drawn about these various deities?

That's for individuals to decide. The fact is that this discovery will not even cause a ripple.

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05-26-2012, 11:39 AM	#14
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	When sotto voce can't answer a question, he attacks the questioner's personal style and/or capitalization of words. It's a mere display of ego-based internet verbal combat. And it's getting old.

05-26-2012, 12:07 PM	#17
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	OK here's a question for sotto voce: Are there any true Christians in the world today, and how did they discover the real meaning of Christianity?

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