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Old 12-17-2006, 06:56 AM   #1
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I have heard of many connections between Jesus and Pisces, and heard that the age of Pisces represents the "end time", but this is the first I have heard that Jesus' supposed birth is put at the beginning of the age of Pisces. Is this true, and how can this be confirmed? I've tried to do research on Pisces on the Internet, but its very difficult since there is so much astrology trash.

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What is not so well known is that Nun in Hebrew means fish, the symbol of life, especially for Galileans who lived by the Sea of Galilee. Interestingly enough, the symbol of the fish became associated with Jesus, as did the fact that the start of the Age of Pisces (symbolized by the fish) represented the start of the “end of times”, since Pisces was the last symbol of the Zodiac, and the start of the new age coincided with Jesus’ birth.

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Funny my zodiac sign is right on the cusp between pisces and aquarius.
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Funny my zodiac sign is right on the cusp between pisces and aquarius.
No worries there then. It's no fun being informed you were born with Cancer on the cusp of Uranus I can tell you.

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I have heard of many connections between Jesus and Pisces, and heard that the age of Pisces represents the "end time", but this is the first I have heard that Jesus' supposed birth is put at the beginning of the age of Pisces. Is this true, and how can this be confirmed? I've tried to do research on Pisces on the Internet, but its very difficult since there is so much astrology trash.
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Gra...t/Nun/nun.html

You are right there is an incredible amount of bull.... but it is true Jesus is supposed to have been born at the beginning of Pisces but the sign does not represent the "end time" as much as it represents the end of an Aeon (roughly 2000 years in occult terms) which is now finished and the new Aeon or age of Aquarius is taking over.
The numerical value of Nun is 50 which is the number of the gates of Binah which amongst its other correspondences also represents Death so the age of the "dying god."
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How about this Wikipedia article? An interesting bit from it:
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For example, the Age of Pisces (the Fish), vernal equinox, is complemented by the astrological sign of Virgo (the Virgin), autumnal equinox; for this reason the current Piscean age is called in astrology the "Age of Pisces-Virgo."
So given that it is (some) Christians who put stickers with fishes on their cars, and that these same Christians are also quite enthusiastic about the virgin birth, I would propose that it is these self-same Christians have painted themselves into a corner of generalized paganism, not us atheists pushing them into that corner :devil1:.

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No worries there then. It's no fun being informed you were born with Cancer on the cusp of Uranus I can tell you.
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I have a vague memory that the turn of the era was indeed an important time for astrologers. Because of the procession of the equinoxes (or something equally incomprehensible) the earth moves BACKWARDS through the astrological houses, slipping one sign about every 2000 years. The previous sign was Aries and the one before that was Taurus. Currently, we're moving from Pisces into... (as everyone knows) the age of aquarius. Changing the house is always important, but the transition from Aries to Pisces was especially so, because Aries in the first sign of the Zodiac and Pisces is the last - so about the time of the star of Bethlehem the whole thing was starting again on the great 2400-year cycle.

As for whether the Christians who used the fish symbol knew about all this stuff or were symbolising it... well, like most neat ideas, it might be so, but probably isn't.

(PS. There's some interesting speculation on the matter in Vol 1 of Martin Bernal's Black Athena (or via: amazon.co.uk).)
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Because of the procession of the equinoxes
Precession Ecrasez, precession. Aka "wobble." Take a spinning top. It does not just spin around its axis, the axis wobbles, going through a circle, much more slowly than the top spins. The axis of the rotating earth does the same. The ancients probably knew about it, since it is a pretty noticeable thing if you are into stars. Which said ancients were, seeing as how they didn't have street lights to hide them or digital calendars to figure out what time of year it was.

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Perhaps there is more to this Christianity - Astrology connection. At the end of Acts, Paul sails from Malta in a boat with the Gemini Twins (more Kids of Zeus and an earthly mother). I always wondered why the Acts writer bothers to mention this - if not for some reasons.

Any other thoughts on the meaning?

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Precession Ecrasez, precession. Aka "wobble." Take a spinning top. It does not just spin around its axis, the axis wobbles, going through a circle, much more slowly than the top spins. The axis of the rotating earth does the same. The ancients probably knew about it, since it is a pretty noticeable thing if you are into stars. Which said ancients were, seeing as how they didn't have street lights to hide them or digital calendars to figure out what time of year it was.

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The ancients were indeed aware of the precession of the equinoxes. It was actually first observed by the Egyptians who kept very accurate predictions of when the stars would rise - they needed it to know when to plant their crops. They thought initially that it was a sign that the heavens were falling apart and at first kept it a great secret.

Later ancients, Romans and Greeks failed as well to understand why it was happening - precisely because they were wedded to the idea of a stationary earth and a moving sun and planets.

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