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Old 09-17-2012, 12:27 AM   #1
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Default LOLquote of the day from Bart Ehrman

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“Mythicists are quite angry at what I’ve said and are attacking me mercilessly on the Internet,” he said. “They think I’m a terrible scholar and have no idea what I’m talking about.”
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LOL? It sounds more or less accurate, and not laughable.

The thing is, most mythicists think he is a good scholar in his particular area of textual criticism, who stepped out of his depth when he tried to talk about historicity.
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LOL? It sounds more or less accurate, and not laughable.

The thing is, most mythicists think he is a good scholar in his particular area of textual criticism, who stepped out of his depth when he tried to talk about historicity.
Yes, I know, and I do think that Ehrman is still unprepared to take on the beast of pseudo-scholarship that is Jesus-mythicism, though he is a foremost expert on the historical Jesus. I had friends who were very much into astrology. Astrology is both very complex and somewhat detached from modern astronomy, and astronomers would be out of their depth if they wanted to critically analyze astrology.
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From his college newspaper:
“Mythicists are quite angry at what I’ve said and are attacking me mercilessly on the Internet,” he said. “They think I’m a terrible scholar and have no idea what I’m talking about.”
http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/.../50569696e062e
Well, what is Ehrman doing here?? Who is he attacking???

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.... “Mythicists’ arguments sound good on the surface, but when you dig deeper they are not very compelling,” Ehrman said.
Ehrman does NOT know what he is talking about.
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.. astronomers would be out of their depth if they wanted to critically analyze astrology.
Bullshit. Astronomers can debunk astrology without breaking a sweat.

E.g. - List of resources for astronomers on astrology

Stop making stuff up.
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I don't understand why the idea that Jesus might not have been human is so bizarre if this is what the Marcionites actually believed and the Marcionites were likely the first tradition to establish a canon of Christian scriptures. How is their understanding of Jesus so easily dismissed?
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Yes, I know, and I do think that Ehrman is still unprepared to take on the beast of pseudo-scholarship that is Jesus-mythicism, though he is a foremost expert on the historical Jesus..
Did you say that Ehrman is unprepared to take on Jesus mythicism???

You have confirmed that Ehrman is a terrible Scholar.

Tell us how long has Ehrman been unprepared??
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.. astronomers would be out of their depth if they wanted to critically analyze astrology.
Bullshit. Astronomers can debunk astrology without breaking a sweat.

E.g. - List of resources for astronomers on astrology

Stop making stuff up.
I am not making anything up. Astrology is both very complex and has little in common with modern astronomy.
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I don't understand why the idea that Jesus might not have been human is so bizarre if this is what the Marcionites actually believed and the Marcionites were likely the first tradition to establish a canon of Christian scriptures. How is their understanding of Jesus so easily dismissed?
The Marcionites believed that Jesus had all of seeming of a human being, but was really only a divine being. It was a way to reconcile the belief that Jesus was God with the belief that divinity and humanity are separate categories. This does not bear any resemblance to the belief that Jesus was merely myth, not even superficially.
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The Marcionites believed that Jesus had all of seeming of a human being, but was really only a divine being. It was a way to reconcile the belief that Jesus was God with the belief that divinity and humanity are separate categories. This does not bear any resemblance to the belief that Jesus was merely myth, not even superficially.
You are unprepared. You don't even know what "historical Jesus" and "Myth Jesus" mean.

In the NT, the God of the Jews, the angel Gabriel, Satan, the Holy Ghost, and Jesus are Mythological whether or not people of antiquity believe they existed.

They are ALL Non-human characters and Acted as non-human beings.

However even Adam and Eve are Myths even though claimed to be human. They were created by God like Jesus.

In the HJ/MJ argument the historical Jesus refers to a Human Jesus ONLY.

Now, Marcion did NOT believe the Jesus story. Marcion believed in another Myth--the Phantom Son of God.

The Jesus cult claimed Jesus was God WITH human flesh--A Myth character.

Marcion preached ANOTHER GOD and ANOTHER Son.

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And, as we said before, the devils put forward Marcion of Pontus, who is even now teaching men to deny that God is the maker of all things in heaven and on earth, and that the Christ predicted by the prophets is His Son, and preaches another god besides the Creator of all, and likewise another son.
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