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Old 03-15-2008, 06:11 PM   #121
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Right, focus in on a date and ignore the people crying for "peace and safety (IOW, the war on terror)", wars and rumours of wars, earthquakes, famines, pestilences, etc,etc. :banghead:
These are things which have happened since the beginning of the human race. They are nothing new. It's nothing to think that a prophecy is being fulfilled about.
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Old 03-15-2008, 06:34 PM   #122
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Right, focus in on a date and ignore the people crying for "peace and safety (IOW, the war on terror)", wars and rumours of wars, earthquakes, famines, pestilences, etc,etc. :banghead:
These are things which have happened since the beginning of the human race. They are nothing new. It's nothing to think that a prophecy is being fulfilled about.
I guess the State of Israel is nothing new also,right?
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These are things which have happened since the beginning of the human race. They are nothing new. It's nothing to think that a prophecy is being fulfilled about.
I guess the State of Israel is nothing new also,right?
Since you've never proved that it matched the prophecy, it hardly matters.
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I guess the State of Israel is nothing new also,right?
Since you've never proved that it matched the prophecy, it hardly matters.
Even if Israel was proven to match the prophecy, it would still hardly matter,right?
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I guess the State of Israel is nothing new also,right?
The state of Israel is influenced by many things. Religion, Geography, Ethnicity, etc. This is called demographics. It is not at all influenced by prophecy in an ancient collection of books.
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Since you've never proved that it matched the prophecy, it hardly matters.
Even if Israel was proven to match the prophecy, it would still hardly matter,right?
Will you please stop with the one-line questions and try to put something intelligent in your posts? What you're doing is sophomoric and lame. Please contribute to the discussion instead of repeating what the previous poster said.
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Since you've never proved that it matched the prophecy, it hardly matters.
Even if Israel was proven to match the prophecy, it would still hardly matter,right?
Worry about that if and when you ever do the actual proof. You've got a lot of claims to back up; creating hypotheticals to distract us won't work, arnoldo.
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Even if Israel was proven to match the prophecy, it would still hardly matter,right?
Will you please stop with the one-line questions and try to put something intelligent in your posts? What you're doing is sophomoric and lame. Please contribute to the discussion instead of repeating what the previous poster said.
Ok I will stop repeating what the previous poster said.
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Old 03-15-2008, 08:32 PM   #129
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Even if Israel was proven to match the prophecy, it would still hardly matter,right?
Worry about that if and when you ever do the actual proof. You've got a lot of claims to back up; creating hypotheticals to distract us won't work, arnoldo.
What is your definition of proof?
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The reason why their prophecies failed is because they set times and dates when the Lord and the Apostles made it clear that this is unknown. That is why Jesus said that the generation which see the signs (like the rise of the Anti-Christ) would be that generation. These signs could have appeared in any generation. Any one who says Christ will appear at a specific date is deceiving himself and others (such a thing will happen when the anti-christ arises). Date seting is contrary to what Jesus said "No man knows the day or hour." Ridicule all you want due to some failed prophecy of some nut who refused to obey what Jesus said. Shame on them...not on Him. <wave>
Yes, I agree Jesus did NOT know the mind of God. He could not tell the future as he was not a prophet. If the few historical accounts are to be believed and he actually existed he may have been a skilled healer at most.

However one additional skill the biblical Jesus was good at was fostering paranoia and division. In this task the Jesus character has proved quite adept. Creating open-ended predictions and scary scenarios are a few tools that he used to take advantage of peoples psychological insecurities. By modern ethical standards however abusing people's vulnerability to superstition and causing anxiety is not perceived as a righteous activity. This is no doubt one of the many causes of disenchantment with the Abrahamic mythology. It is not hard to envisage that in the near future this current superstition fad will be religated to a cute historical byproduct of human evolution like the Greek mythology before it.

Fortunately while (like our forebears) there'll always be the odd confirmation biased happenings that appear to correlate with the latest interpretative version of this prophecy or that prophesy it'll all come to naught and will exist only in zealots imaginations. Still, you seem to be quite excited by it and I notice that you like the attention and perceived authority you gain from having an intimate knowledge of the fantasy. Too bad that you feel you have to poison others with your problems. But hey, I guess everyone needs attention. :huh:
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