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mark9950 · 09-08-2003, 06:53 PM

Is it part of the bible or what?

wade-w · 09-08-2003, 06:59 PM

You'll probably get a better response in BC&H.

Utnapishtim · 09-08-2003, 08:25 PM

Essentially the Talmud is a large collection of Jewish writings that interpret and expand upon the Old Testament, in particular the Torah. So for example, it says in the Torah to refrain from doing work on the Sabbath. The Talmud defines exactly what is considered work and what things in particular a Jew can and can't do on the Sabbath.

This is the basic nature of the Talmud, to give the specifics of the laws and other things found in the Torah.

At least this is my understanding. I'm sure someone like Heathen Dawn could give you a better idea.

dienekes · 09-08-2003, 09:26 PM

In my language "Talmud" means nothing..."Tamud" on the other hand, means sperm.

Darth Dane · 09-08-2003, 09:36 PM

dienekes In my language "Talmud" means nothing..."Tamud" on the other hand, means sperm.

Which language?

DD - Love & Laughter

dienekes · 09-08-2003, 09:41 PM

The Filipino language.

Peter Kirby · 09-08-2003, 10:24 PM

Follow the link to read selections from The Babylonian Talmud.

There are also articles in the Jewish Encyclopedia and Catholic Encyclopedia.

best,
Peter Kirby

Heathen Dawn · 09-09-2003, 05:19 AM

The Talmud is not part of the Bible, it is an extension of it (more accurately, on the Torah alone) plus a commentary on that extension. The Talmud contains portions of the Mishnah, which is [supposed to be] the Oral Law given to Moses at Mount Sinai, and the Gemara, which is a discussion among rabbis for elucidating the Mishnah.

For example the Torah commands to keep the Sabbath, the Mishnah says there are 39 types of work that are forbidden on the Sabbath, and the Gemara goes into even more details about each of these 39 works.

The Mishnah is in Hebrew. The Gemara does have a Hebrew version (Talmud Yerushalmi, or Jerusalem Talmud), but the version usually used today is in Aramaic, the Babylonian Talmud, which was composed in modern-day Iraq. The Gemara is quite like a discussion board: it contains pointful discussions, idiosyncratic musings and some bits of nonsense.

Online Mishnah and Gemara

mark9950 · 09-10-2003, 07:47 PM

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Online Mishnah and Gemara

Is there an english translation?

Peter Kirby · 09-10-2003, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by mark9950
Is there an english translation?

Once again I direct you to The Babylonian Talmud on the Sacred Texts website.

best,
Peter Kirby

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wade-w Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Silver City, New Mexico Posts: 1,872	You'll probably get a better response in BC&H.

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Utnapishtim Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 330	Essentially the Talmud is a large collection of Jewish writings that interpret and expand upon the Old Testament, in particular the Torah. So for example, it says in the Torah to refrain from doing work on the Sabbath. The Talmud defines exactly what is considered work and what things in particular a Jew can and can't do on the Sabbath. This is the basic nature of the Talmud, to give the specifics of the laws and other things found in the Torah. At least this is my understanding. I'm sure someone like Heathen Dawn could give you a better idea.

09-08-2003, 09:26 PM	#4
dienekes Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 27	In my language "Talmud" means nothing..."Tamud" on the other hand, means sperm.

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Darth Dane Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Required Posts: 2,349	dienekes In my language "Talmud" means nothing..."Tamud" on the other hand, means sperm. Which language? DD - Love & Laughter

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dienekes Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 27	The Filipino language.

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Peter Kirby Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: the reliquary of Ockham's razor Posts: 4,035	Follow the link to read selections from The Babylonian Talmud. There are also articles in the Jewish Encyclopedia and Catholic Encyclopedia. best, Peter Kirby

09-09-2003, 05:19 AM	#8
Heathen Dawn Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 4,656	The Talmud is not part of the Bible, it is an extension of it (more accurately, on the Torah alone) plus a commentary on that extension. The Talmud contains portions of the Mishnah, which is [supposed to be] the Oral Law given to Moses at Mount Sinai, and the Gemara, which is a discussion among rabbis for elucidating the Mishnah. For example the Torah commands to keep the Sabbath, the Mishnah says there are 39 types of work that are forbidden on the Sabbath, and the Gemara goes into even more details about each of these 39 works. The Mishnah is in Hebrew. The Gemara does have a Hebrew version (Talmud Yerushalmi, or Jerusalem Talmud), but the version usually used today is in Aramaic, the Babylonian Talmud, which was composed in modern-day Iraq. The Gemara is quite like a discussion board: it contains pointful discussions, idiosyncratic musings and some bits of nonsense. Online Mishnah and Gemara

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