manimal2878

Doesn't this pretty much trash all the OT laws and interprations.

All that should really be left is the law of jesus. His commandments were pretty simple from what I remember. Matt 19: 16-21. Basically six laws. Plus give away your riches and help the poor. Or really just two as in Matt 22: 36-40.

Isn't anything besides what Jesus said moot, aren't all those old testament laws gone now, no sex stuff, no homosexual stuff, no sacrifices, no temple,no believe this or that just follow the law as Jesus saw it...

jonesg

Didn't he say "I didn't come to abolish the Law but to fullfill it".
Or something to that effect.

Naruto

I hear that a lot, but what the hell does that mean? "Fulfilling" it?

manimal2878

What I see a lot of Christians do is interpret it to mean fullfill prophesy of his messiahness.

But strictly read it means he came to enforce the law.

And I believe the law of god as he saw it was just those commandments referanced above.

Like a swat team coming not to abolish the search warrent but to enforce it.

Gavriel

Trust me lots of jews also are in bewilderment on what/how one "fulfills" the Law.

Quite simply it's impossiable, so it's a silly concept.

There are ~613 laws in the Tanach (OT).

Some can only be performed by men
some only by women
some only by farmers in Israel
Some only by levites
some only by kings
some only by kohian
some only by nazarites
ect.
ect.

As you can see, NO ONE can perform/fullfill all the laws. And NO WHERE does it state one will come around and "fullfill" them. :huh:

Sensei Meela

They're Rabbinical expressions, idioms; "Fulfill" means "to interpret correctly, faithful to the original" and "abolish" means "to mangle so badly that you've destroyed it."

There's a bunch of older threads I'm pretty sure. Try this one:
http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=86940

[And I went "a little bit" () further with the above here:
http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...5#post2012515]