mrzyphl

I just had a funny mental burp. When Pontious Pilote asked the crowd who they would like to see go free, they replied Barabbas. It occured to me that 'Barabbas' could literally mean 'son of the father' in aramaic. When the crowd cried out, could they have meant 'free the son of the father' meaning Jesus?
I think the story may have started out that way, then, after numerous repititions ended up the way it is written in the bible(kinda like a gossip circle).

I know it's trivial but have any of you encountered this theory before or am I out in left feild with this?

Toto

This is a common interpretation of Barabbas, although people draw different conclusions as to what it meant - whether the crowd was calling for Jesus to be released, or Barabbas was a double of Jesus.

CalUWxBill

It's possible this lends credence to the "play written by mary" theory of PhilosopherJay. It may add some humor to the play. Or if it is divine maybe there is a God inspired sense of humor.

fromdownunder

Perhaps some biblical expert here will confirm, or carve me up over this one, but I have read articles which say that some early manuscripts have a given name for Barabbus (Bar Abba...'son of the father"), which is - Yeshu, or Jesus. Interesting of true. Jesus son of the mother, or Jesus, son of the father?

Norm

mrzyphl

Hehe, I could imagine that would be a very Montypythonesque moment: Crowd; "No, not that Barabbas the other Barabbas!"

Hmmm, sounds interesting! Could you provide a linky?

fromdownunder, Are you proposing that Yeshu means 'son of the mother'?

Perhaps some biblical scholar here or 'escatologist'? could start a thread on interpretations and the roots of the words? That would be very interesting!

fromdownunder

Actually I'm not. It was a lousy attempt at a pun on the "virgin" birth.

Norm

CalUWxBill

It's actually still on the front page of this subforum, but http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=168202

yummyfur

From footnotes of James Stills article about Barrabas
http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...ll/absurd.html

"Palimpsest in Saint Catherine's Monastery on Mount Sinai: Evangelion da-Mepharreshe. F.C. Burkitt, ed. 2 vols. Cambridge, 1904, Monastery at Koridethi in the Caucasus: "The Text of the Gospels and the Koridethi Text," Harvard Theological Review 16: 1923, pp. 267-286, and "Codex 1 of the Gospels and its Allies," Texts and Studies 7(3): 1902. Origen (c. 250) was troubled by the use of "Jesus Barabbas" in the manuscripts he was familiar with because, although "Jesus" was a common Aramaic name, Origen had thought that no "sinner" could have such a name. Major manuscripts of the fourth century (Sinaiticus, Alexandrinus, Vaticanus) do not contain the variant and Hyam Maccoby (Revolution in Judaea, New York: Taplinger Publishing Company, 1973) believes it was "suppressed in most of the manuscripts" because of Origen's confusion and the embarrassment of having Jesus "Son of God" share a prison with Jesus "Son of the Father" (p. 159). The New English Bible and the Scholar's Version (The Complete Gospels. Robert J. Miller, ed. Sonoma, Calif.: Polebridge Press, 1992) now contains Jesus Barabbas in their translations. "

Kosh

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(or perhaps maybe.... Woger?)