Splarnst

So there were no wars, famines or earthquakes in the first century CE? What the hell are you smoking?

Are you putting a workshop of how to argue illogically or something?

Agenda07

The verse doesn't say anything about the wars being fought in the name of Christianity, only that there will be wars. Hardly a stunning prediction.

Oh absolutely.

Except that nearly all of Europe is at peace for the first time in over two millenia, and with the EU there's no realistic chance of another war between the great European powers (as opposed to such times of noted peace as the Hundred Years War). The US and Russia are no longer waving nuclear weapons at each other and my generation hasn't grown up in the shadow of the mushroom cloud, with 99% of us not even knowing that the 'Four minute warning' was ever anything more than an odd song by Mark Owen.

Famine? For the first time in history we have international intergovernmental bodies and charities dedicated to stopping famines.

Pestilence? I'm betting you've never even seen someone with Polio in the flesh have you? Or measles? Or mumps? So many diseases which used to be a universal blight have been driven almost to extinction, or at least contained, by the marvels of modern science and medecine.

And in the midst of all this the fundies still desperately want to believe that the end is nie...

Apart from in North America, South America, Europe, Australia and many African countries where Christians constitute a majority? Cry me a river. Yes, there's persecution in China and Islamic countries but to claim that Christians are hated by 'all nations' when you're running most of them is blatantly false.

Because obviously nobody was offended, betrayed or hated more than few decades ago. Hell, you can find all of those things in the New Testament! :rolling:

Because there weren't any 'false prophets' around at the time? Try reading Josephus.


How could he be a joke if nobody had heard of him.

Here's my list of predictions for the future:
-The Israel-Palestine conflict will continue to drag on for many years.
-Governments won't take serious action against global warming until it's too late.
-There will always be poverty.
-Sceptics and scoffers will try to claim that these predictions were inferences from historical trends rather than divine inspiration.

Prove me wrong!

DFrechetteNH

You're being way too specific. Here's my list for 2008.

1. People will be maimed horribly and die needlesly.

2. There will be outbreaks of diseases.

3. Floods, fires and droughts will kill many.

4. Jesus will NOT return.

Splarnst

How about, "Bad stuff may or may not happen at some point"?

spin

And Jesus said this where exactly?


spin

Half-Life

9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Skeptic_v.1

All the proof....of what? That you're really hooked on cut-n-paste...

It doesn't look like you've made a good attempt as proving anything....pasting bible verses to prove bible verses ...????

CreamFilledGiraffe

You are reading something into the text that is not there.

CreamFilledGiraffe

Most modern Christians tend to lead lives free of religious persecution. How would you go about showing they hated "of all nations?"

Half-Life

Cmon, even the most hardend skeptic must admit that Jesus is one of the most HATED religious figures in the world.

Metal bands write songs against him. People mock followers of Christ. People are killed over it.

Where is everyone being killed over Krishna or Zeus?

What about Buddha?