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Malachi151 · 02-04-2007, 06:19 AM

The standard view seems to be that Cephas and Peter are the same person, but why do we see Cephas and Peter listed separately in Gal 2, is this just a translational issue, or evidence of interpolation?

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Galatians 2:
6 And from those who were supposed to be acknowledged leaders (what they actually were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)—those leaders contributed nothing to me. 7 On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel for the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel for the circumcised 8(for he who worked through Peter making him an apostle to the circumcised also worked through me in sending me to the Gentiles), 9 and when James and Cephas and John, who were acknowledged pillars, recognized the grace that had been given to me, they gave to Barnabas and me the right hand of fellowship, agreeing that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10 They asked only one thing, that we remember the poor, which was actually what I was eager to do.

11 But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood self-condemned; 12 for until certain people came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But after they came, he drew back and kept himself separate for fear of the circumcision faction. 13 And the other Jews joined him in this hypocrisy, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. 14 But when I saw that they were not acting consistently with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, ‘If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews?’

Can anyone send me a copy of this JOSTR article Peter, Jerusalem and Galatians 1:13-2:14? Since Peter seems to be away I'm not sure the JOSTR exchange that he setup is working properly:

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=004...3E2.0.CO%3B2-P

Thanks

Chris Weimer · 02-04-2007, 09:29 AM

Peter and Cephas aren't the same person, but I'll get to that in a minute. Also, the article is being sent your way.

motorhead · 02-04-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Weimer

Peter and Cephas aren't the same person, but I'll get to that in a minute. Also, the article is being sent your way.

Can I get a copy of the article? Thank you.

motorhead

Chris Weimer · 02-04-2007, 12:27 PM

I want to remind everyone to take advantage of http://groups.yahoo.com/group/docexchange/ - a place Peter Kirby started and a place that I'd like to see used.

Malachi151 · 02-04-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Weimer

Peter and Cephas aren't the same person, but I'll get to that in a minute. Also, the article is being sent your way.

Great Chris, I got it thanks. By the way, do you have any comments on the article?

Chris Weimer · 02-04-2007, 02:37 PM

The reason why I didn't put it online because that would be a violation of copyright. But I'll need some more time to ingest his arguments.~

Ben C Smith · 02-04-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Malachi151

Great Christ, I got it thanks.

I have heard that Chris(t) Weimer loves to be mistaken for the messiah.

Ben.

Malachi151 · 02-04-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Weimer

The reason why I didn't put it online because that would be a violation of copyright. But I'll need some more time to ingest his arguments.~

I plan to take it down, I was just going to put it up for a day.

Chris Weimer · 02-04-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben C Smith

I have heard that Chris(t) Weimer loves to be mistaken for the messiah.

Ben.

Haha! It wouldn't be the first time. :P

Malachi151, instead of putting the article up, why not summarize its main points and present them here instead?

Malachi151 · 02-04-2007, 03:17 PM

Unfortunately I don't know how to post Greek letters, which is the main part that I need more help with.

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02-04-2007, 09:29 AM	#2
Chris Weimer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: none Posts: 9,879	Peter and Cephas aren't the same person, but I'll get to that in a minute. Also, the article is being sent your way.

02-04-2007, 12:27 PM	#4
Chris Weimer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: none Posts: 9,879	I want to remind everyone to take advantage of http://groups.yahoo.com/group/docexchange/ - a place Peter Kirby started and a place that I'd like to see used.

02-04-2007, 02:37 PM	#6
Chris Weimer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: none Posts: 9,879	The reason why I didn't put it online because that would be a violation of copyright. But I'll need some more time to ingest his arguments.~

02-04-2007, 03:17 PM	#10
Malachi151 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 8,674	Unfortunately I don't know how to post Greek letters, which is the main part that I need more help with.

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