Pilate

I found it. Did you say feminine singular accusative? Gotcha! But I will have mercy on you and will not redicule you. Γολογοθα is a masculine word.
It is not like "amartia." Amartia is feminine.
Spin don't make fun when others make a mistake or an erroneous claim. I just want to tell you this: it is not a shame to admit you made a mistake. And have mercy on those who make mistakes.

spin

If you cannot deal with my post don't obfuscate it. You make claims like:

This question necessitates knowledge that is beyond your expertise and mine.

Speak for yourself. You may happily admit your lack of knowledge. I do not find it is appropriate for you to assume that everyone is like you.

When you make false accusations, you should act responsibly and either admit them or show that they were not in fact false. Your evasion indicates that they were false.

You were asked specific questions:

• Did the christians in the earliest times ever use "Chaldee"?
• Well, what is Mishnaic Hebrew?

You did not answer them.


You said earlier, In rational thinking it is not the guy with the biggest mouth who wins,

yet in all hypocrisy you had said, as loudly as you could:

Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

If this is not big-mouthing what do you mean?


It's not in the Alexandrian tradition if I can go on Hort's text and it wasn't in the Byzantine tradition. I was trying to fond out which tradition actually used the specific form.


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spin

I haven't got a source for the number of Aramaic texts at the moment. Emmanuel Tov, the editor in chief of the scrolls, says that there were 931 texts, indicating that the number was rough, because there could be different texts among some of the fragments put in the same lot by the earlier editors. Flint and VanderKam indicate that there were 222 biblical scrolls.

I'd try Schiffman, "Reclaiming the DSS", Anchor, 1995 (?), or VanderKam, "The DSS Today", Eerdmans, 1995(?), or some other general introduction which may provide the information. I don't feel like counting, though for a rough count of cave 1 texts out of 40, five are in Aramaic.

ABD's statement is correct. Its bias here is to overlook what they accusingly call "sectarian" texts. The statement is true. Many of the "parabiblical" texts were written in Aramaic. They are a small percentage which don't represent the main body of texts from Qumran, the so-called "sectarian" texts.


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Pilate

Spin,
when you give percentages you have to take in consideration the duplicates (one book may have 10 copies, this still counts as 1). This point is very important.
Excluding the Old Testament books, most of which, or almost all (take your choice of words) are Hebrew (later Hebrew 2 century BCE), how many books
are Hebrew and how many Aramaic?
The book Dead Sea Scrolls by Michael Wise, Harprer, 1996, How many of those scrolls are Hebrew, Greek, Ethiopian, or Aramaic?

spin

I don't agree with you, but it won't change much. Many of the Aramaic texts were various fragments of Enoch.

Let me requote what you were responding to: "I haven't got a source for the number of Aramaic texts at the moment."

Is this book you are referring to Wise, Abegg and Cook, "The DSS a new translation", Harper 1996? If so, I couldn't find numbers in it.


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Toto

The Dead Sea Scrolls: a New Translation is searchable on Amazon.

Search for Aramaic and read pp 8-10

"Apart from copies of biblical books, about one out of six of the Dead Sea scrolls is inscribed in Aramaic. Clearly the writing of an Aramaic Gospel was eminently possible Yet the vast majority of the scrolls were Hebrew texts. Hebrew was manifestly the principle literary language for the Jews of this period. The new discoveries underlined the still living, breathing, even supple character of that language."

spin

Yup and displays the same declension in the accusative as golgoQan, ie a feminine ending. So, what makes you think Golgotha is masculine, if it acts like a feminine noun in its declension in Mk 15:22??


spin

Pilate

"You can bring a horse to the water, but you can't make it drink."

spin

Any non sequitur would have been as relevant.

One Aramaic text to five Hebrew. That tells the basic story.

There are a dozen copies of Enoch, six copies of Aramaic Levi and five of Tobit in Aramaic in cave 4. There might be 20 copies of Serekh, maybe more for the Zadokite frags. and ten or so War scroll texts, so we are maintaining the 5 / 1 ratio.

"You can lead a man to slaughter, but you can't make him think."


spin

Pilate

Spin,
I thought you had a Greek dictionary, don't you? Well, if you do and if that dictionary tells you it is feminine, I will confidently tell you to throw it away.
My qualifications?:
I have over 50 years experience with Greek, first hand. I can recite biblical verses by memory. When I was young, I used to recite parts of chapters by memory (like the prologue of John). I can read the New Testament like you read English. This is not bragging. I don't need to look at the dictionary to tell you Golgothas is masculine. Here, I am writing by memory:
Onomastiki: O golgothas
Geniki: tou golgotha
Dotiki: tw golgotha
Aitiatiki: ton golgotha(n) with 'n' is better grammar (someone could argue about this with me)
Klitiki: w golgotha (the w stands for omega)
There is no plural otherwise I would continue. but if it had a plural it would go,
onomastiki: oi golgothades and so on.
It comes natural to me. (I know Greek better than I know English. Does this tell you something?)
I could have been your professor teaching you ancient Greek in college. And this is not sarcasm. Yet, I acknowledge I make mistakes, and have weaknesses (I do not master the grammatical nomenclature- I forgot after years of non use) and will not claim to be an authority on Greek. And I don't want to make fun of your lack of knowledge, like you did when I misjudged Ar. for Aramaic.
Anyway, I am getting a little tired with arguing, so, if you don't mind, I will cut down on this correspondence.