AtheistVirus

this should really be taught in elementary school, the whole astrology, psychics , talking to the dead people, bible freaks and all kind of rubbish would be considerably reduced.

blame the schools...

sugarhitman

So are you saying that the Ottomans did not inherit the Byzantine empire? Are you saying that the Byzantine empire wasnt once part of the Roman empire. Is not Russia also not European. Who controls Russia? Europeans.

Super genaralization? I dont think you even believe that obvious dumb arguement.

sugarhitman

The difference is that psychics and astrologers comes no where near to doing what the prohets of Israel has done. So sorry you cannot group bible prophets with these occult frauds.


And Na, na , na na na you cant disprove it,

AtheistVirus

So basically, Japanese will all go to hell...:crying:

sugarhitman

Be of good cheer....not all of them.

Lazarus Long

But Muhammad had over a dozen fulfilled prophechies and even more signs that tell of the coming of the last day that have 'come true.' I ask you again, why are you not praising Allah and bowing before him? Heck, they even call Muhammad "The Prophet." Can you disprove the prophecies of Muhammad?


LL

Johnny Skeptic

Why does the Bible contain 100% disputable prophecies? If Jesus had predicted when and where some natural disasters would occur, month, day, and year, few people who have disputed that he was able to predict the future. If Jesus had done that, surely more people would have become Christians. Historically, many people have accepted all kinds of religions based upon much less convincing evidence than that. In addition, Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce attracted lots of followers based upon a lot less convincing evidence than that.

Micah 5:2 says:

"But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."

Obviously, Jesus did not become ruler in Israel. If Micah had predicted that the messiah would rule a heavenly kingdom instead of an earthly kingdom like Micah misled the Jews to believe, and had predicted that the messiah would heal people, that the messiah would be crucified, buried, and rise from the dead in three days, that Pontius Pilate would become the Roman governor of Palestine, and that Herod would become the King of Judea, surely lots more Jews have believed that Jesus was the messiah. Why do you suppose that the vast majority of Jews have always rejected Jesus?

If fact, prophecy is one of the greatest proofs that the God of the Bible does not exist. No loving, rational God would ever make any disputable prophecies when he could easily make 100% indisputable prophecies.

If you had been taken as a baby and had been raised by Muslim parents in Iran, you would probably reject Bible prophecy today. If that had happened, why would that have been the case? Wouldn't you still have wanted to know what the truth is under those conditions? Under those conditions, you would have demanded evidence that the Bible is true, and you would have rejected the same evidence that you accept now. Is wanting to know the truth the most important factor regarding finding the truth, or what worldview a person's parents have, and where a person lives?

Is it your position that God is not able to provide addition evidence that would convince more people to love and accept him, or that he is not willing to do so?

sugarhitman

Um the Quran was written AFTER Muhammed, wheares the bible was written way before Jesus. And give me a specific world prophecy from the Quran. (the Quran is nothing more than a whats that word? plagarist??? book.) So sorry these prophecies of the Quran does not even began to hold a candle to those of the bible....and you very well know it.

ChairmanMeow

As noted above, and here, the book of daniel itself has many historical as well as possible authorship problems, so I wouldn't consider it a valid source for such matters.


Saying that the only kingdom to arise after divided rome is "the kingdom of Christ" doesn't make any sense. There have been plenty of unrelated, yet significant "kingdoms" between then and now. The Aztec Empire, The Kingdom of England, The Kingdom of Denmark, and plenty others.


You are clearly suffering from confirmation bias here. You also seem to be using the tried and true method of prophecy, the law of large numbers! As long as one in a million prophecies come true, you're right! Anything that isn't true can just be assumed to happen in the future.


I go out on a limb here and say Islam has just as many "fulfilled" prophecies as Christianity.

sugarhitman

Youre right the prophecies of the Messiah have not been fulfilled....but you do realize that the prophets foretold His death and return.....so boooo weak arguement (which is typical Johnny).