sweetpea7

Here is the passage in context:

http://www.commonenglishbible.com/Ex...i=Matt%2013.41

CEB

My best take on it is that "Human one" could refer either to Jesus or to an expected apocalyptic figure. I do not think that the text is clear as to whom the "Human one" is referring. Insert the words "son of man" in place of "Human one" and my take on it remains the same.

Sheshbazzar

OK, so you believe that he was speaking about.....maybe himself, or some other unidentified figure.
Hmmm.... one wonders just whom it was that he had in mind? and of course none of the rest of the Book gives us any hints

Moving on, Please your best rendition of Matthew 16:27 and accompanying comments.

sweetpea7

I'm sorry, Sheshbazzar, but I just do not have the time to go through multiple verses right now. I would like to, as I find this interesting, and I think it would be fun to see how our discussion goes. I may give it a try if I have more time this evening. And thank you for the engaging discussion.

Iskander

The common man is not alone, he will send his companions with the message that will make us strong and we will forever remove the pebble in the shoe.
Also in mat 24:31 but there they also sound the shofar and gather the willing commoners from every safe corner. Commoners of the world unite. .

Sheshbazzar

See, I did want to continue this discussion after all
And will be most happy to continue it at your convenience.

Latter.

hjalti

Shez is totally "driving outside" :Cheeky:

By the way, do you know Italian, spin? I lived in Italy and I remember heariing "rompecoglioni" is "rompescattole" an euphemism for that?

sweetpea7

http://www.commonenglishbible.com/Ex...i=Matt%2016.27

footnotes:
CEB

This appears to me to be referring to an apocalyptic figure. It could be referring to Jesus himself, although I do not see where that is indicated in the text. Again, if "Son of Man" were used in place of "the Human one" this would not make a difference in my understanding of the text.

spin

You must have moved in different circles from those I frequented. Polite society would never say "rompecoglioni". But then, they'd probably say, "piaga" (="pest/plague/sore").

Sheshbazzar

OK, so you believe that he was speaking about......maybe himself, or maybe some other unidentified figure.
Hmmm.... one wonders just whom it might have been that he had in mind? and of course none of the rest of The Book gives us any hints.

Moving on, Please, provide your best rendition of Matthew 24:30 and any accompanying comments.

hjalti

Well, I wouldn't consider high-schoolers to be "polite society".

Sheshbazzar, I'm curious, do you know any modern languages other than your mother tongue? I ask because I think that if you had studied another language you would know that this word-for-word translation you seem to advocate is absurd. I mean, if I read a translation like that into Icelandic of the phrase: "He cried very much, because his mother had just kicked the bucket." I would think something like: "What bucket? And what was so special about the bucket?" Any serious translation would either use a similar idiom or just translate it as "He cried very much, because his mother had just died."