William

The direction this thread has taken is making me think it belongs in BC&H more than GRD. Moving it on over...

Kelly

I am not sure I understand your specific question. Are you asking "Is it more than a 'coincidence' that an upside down pentagram equals the occult symbol of the Goat of Mendes?" Hmmm. I've never really thought about it before. But I do suspect it is not a coincidence in terms of the fact that a five-pointed star had significant religious symbolism to a very large group of people in the Middle East, and occult groups typically seek to turn religious symbolism into something "other."

If you are asking if I think it is a coincidence that the Goat of Mendes appears in the street layout of Washington DC, the answer would be an emphatic "no". I think the French architect of DC, a guy named "L'Enfant" encoded many occult symbols into the layout of Washington. I'm not convinced that the founding fathers, even though many of them were indeed Masons, actually realized how many symbols L'Enfant included. Washington had hired the guy, and although Washington had once been a practicing Mason, he hadn't been a practicing Mason for several years when plans were laid to build Washington DC. Thomas Jefferson was also in on the layout of DC, but he disagreed rather regularly with some of the things L'Enfant wanted to do, and every time Jefferson disagreed, L'Enfant threw a temper tantrum. So I don't think it is really correct for people to imply that Washington DC was a layout determined by American Masonic founding fathers.

It was L'Enfant who originally encoded the occult symbolism into DC's street layout. There is no solid proof that he was a Mason either that I can find, but one might reasonably conclude L'Enfant certainly belonged to one of the secret societies and was very familiar with occult magic and symbolism. Most Mason's seem to prefer Egyptian symbolism, but L'Enfant used a lot of symbolism that is more specific to Baal worship, like the Goat of Mendez. In terms of witchcraft, an upright pentagram is supposed to be a symbol protecting occultists from harm. But an upside down pentagram, particularly one with one open side like the symbol in Washington DC is, is supposed to literally "invite" evil entities, or at least that's what some of the articles I've read say.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False..._hand_sign.htm

Also the figure of the great horned owl of Molech is encoded into Washington DC's street layout, and Molech was an aspect of Baal worship that demanded child sacrifice. The elitists who attend the Bohemian Grove meetings every year also burn an owl in effigy to Molech and child sacrifice. Very creepy stuff if you ask me...

I also find it more than odd that to discover that Washington DC sits directly on a major leyline that extends across the ocean from Baalbek. Check out the second picture down. Whether you or anyone else believes there is anything to leylines or not is beside the point. The ancients believed in it big time.

http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/afterword.html

So, do I think any of it is merely a "coincidence?"

Hell no. I think L'Enfant knew exactly what he was doing...

Toto

This thread is a god-awful mess. I will split out some subthreads.

firebug

I assume you ask two questions.

1. Why does Jesus say explicitly that he was sent by God ONLY to the House of Israel?

Well, he was jewish, that is why. Tribal allegiance was strong then, as it is strong now.

2. Why does every religion in the world ignore this specific statement made by Jesus?

In general, religious have no problem ignoring facts (even in the book they revere). More specifically,
a) non-christian religions ignore this (and many other) statement because they consider Jesus a prophet, at best.
b) various brands of christianity ignore it because it undermines the foundation of their religion. And so do many other things in the book (shall I remind you child abuse perpetrated by Abraham, Lot, etc.?).

sdelsolray

It's quite a fairy tale.

ohmi

The House of Israel is completely non-Jewish, never accepted Judaism at all, always worshipped pagan gods , and [mostly] still does ...

firebug

So, correct me if I am wrong - god of old testament (judaic god?) dispatched his son to take good care of... pagans? Well, at least not pagans mc

ohmi

The God of scripture is not the same as the god of judaic creeds , but certainly the House of Israel is paganised and has been for thousands of years, but are forgiven in their new covenant [Jer 31:31-34] ...

The God of scripture redeems Israel first so that they can later serve as priests and kings during the mass redemption of the gentiles...

joemailman

WELL! First of all you're assuming that this Jesus "person" was actually a real person....not just a character made up by some shamans, priests or rabbis. Secondly you're assuming that, in the face of all the evidence that this "book", which is actually and obviously a collection of stories, is an historical accounting of that which happened. Even if it were only half true, which it is obviously not, you are still assuming that it has not been altered over the years by those who would and have used it to their own advantage. Given the condition of human beings living in sh*t for over a period of thousands of years, could any sane or even reasonable person expect any publication to remain in tact? Especially if the publication were to be used for economic, political, and/or military gain?

And so the reason why civilizations and other religions have not been able to adopt and practice what was allegedly said is because these are humans beings subjected to a world of scarcity and want. Some things allegedly said were honest and socially positive. Other things were cruel and untrue and utterly negative. So the clash of religions and cultures was and still is inevitable....until human beings come into their own. Until they are able to function in an economically sound and stable culture we will continue to have barbaric behavior and continue to ignore the many positive characteristics of human beings that are so desperately needed to be practiced.

ohmi

[quote=joemailman;5353998]Like all good communication channels, the scriptures are both coded and incorporate redundancy ,to defeat the efforts to abuse by religionists...



It is commonplace to confuse religion and God , but still a big mistake ...

As for sustainable civilisation, it will not happen until this one fails [worldwide], which is already apparent, imminent ... and was of course predicted by jesus , the prophets , and the saints ...