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Old 02-26-2007, 10:59 AM   #11
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You'd have to ask others about Heidegger. As for his personal relation with Husserl, who was his teacher, and to whom he owed his rise in German academia, when Heidegger became a member of the Nazi Party, and gave propaganda speeches for the Nazi's, he also made sure that Husserl was dismissed from his academic teaching job, and could never teach again. Husserl was, I believe, a Jew.
So Martin was a bit lacking in the ethics department eh?
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Without a doubt, and by far, it is...Aquinas.:notworthy:
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Without a doubt, and by far, it is...Aquinas.:notworthy:
A very smart man, and the most influential philosopher of his time, the Middle Ages. And the official philosopher of the Catholic Church. The official philosophy of The Church is, Thomism (For Thomas Aquinas). But far from the most influential philosopher of all times. Too narrow, to begin with. But my list was of the last century, so he couldn't have made it.
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You'd have to ask others about Heidegger. As for his personal relation with Husserl, who was his teacher, and to whom he owed his rise in German academia, when Heidegger became a member of the Nazi Party, and gave propaganda speeches for the Nazi's, he also made sure that Husserl was dismissed from his academic teaching job, and could never teach again. Husserl was, I believe, a Jew.
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When Husserl retired in 1928, Heidegger...accepted Freiburg's election to be his successor....On April 14, 1933 (thus prior to Heidegger's rectorship), Husserl was given an enforced leave of absence because he was Jewish. It is not true, as is sometimes claimed, that during the rectorate Heidegger denied Husserl access to the university library. He did, however, break off contact with Husserl, other than via a "go-between." Heidegger did not attend his mentor's cremation in 1938, and in 1941, under pressure from publisher Max Niemeyer, agreed to remove the dedication to Husserl from Being and Time (restored in post-war editions).

Martin Heidegger had extramarital affairs with Hannah Arendt and Elisabeth Blochmann, both students of Heidegger and both Jewish. He helped them emigrate from Germany prior to World War II and resumed contact with them after the war.

In 1967 Heidegger had an encounter with the Jewish poet, Paul Celan, who had been interned during the war.... On July 25 Celan visited Heidegger at his retreat, signing the guestbook and spending some time walking and talking with Heidegger.
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When Husserl retired in 1928, Heidegger...accepted Freiburg's election to be his successor....On April 14, 1933 (thus prior to Heidegger's rectorship), Husserl was given an enforced leave of absence because he was Jewish. It is not true, as is sometimes claimed, that during the rectorate Heidegger denied Husserl access to the university library. He did, however, break off contact with Husserl, other than via a "go-between." Heidegger did not attend his mentor's cremation in 1938, and in 1941, under pressure from publisher Max Niemeyer, agreed to remove the dedication to Husserl from Being and Time (restored in post-war editions).

Martin Heidegger had extramarital affairs with Hannah Arendt and Elisabeth Blochmann, both students of Heidegger and both Jewish. He helped them emigrate from Germany prior to World War II and resumed contact with them after the war.

In 1967 Heidegger had an encounter with the Jewish poet, Paul Celan, who had been interned during the war.... On July 25 Celan visited Heidegger at his retreat, signing the guestbook and spending some time walking and talking with Heidegger.
Yop. I hear some of his best bed-mates were Jews. Racists often also like to bed black women. In was all the rage in the anti-bellum slave states of the South. It was Heidegger, so far as I know, who helped give Husserl the push. As Stuart Hampshire (the late very good English philosopher once remarked, "Heidegger was not only a bad philosopher, he was a bad man".
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Yop. I hear some of his best bed-mates were Jews. Racists often also like to bed black women. In was all the rage in the anti-bellum slave states of the South. It was Heidegger, so far as I know, who helped give Husserl the push. As Stuart Hampshire (the late very good English philosopher once remarked, "Heidegger was not only a bad philosopher, he was very bad man"). There is no doubt that he voluntarily joined the Nazi Party, and made speeches on the radio for the Nazis.
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A very smart man, and the most influential philosopher of his time, the Middle Ages. And the official philosopher of the Catholic Church. The official philosophy of The Church is, Thomism (For Thomas Aquinas). But far from the most influential philosopher of all times. Too narrow, to begin with. But my list was of the last century, so he couldn't have made it.
Since the Catholic Church is fairly large to this day he must be one of the most influential philosophers of all time then. I think I know what you mean by "too narrow" but I'd like to ask you.
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Yop. I hear some of his best bed-mates were Jews. Racists often also like to bed black women. In was all the rage in the anti-bellum slave states of the South. It was Heidegger, so far as I know, who helped give Husserl the push. As Stuart Hampshire (the late very good English philosopher once remarked, "Heidegger was not only a bad philosopher, he was very bad man"). There is no doubt that he voluntarily joined the Nazi Party, and made speeches on the radio for the Nazis.
The case could be made that he was a bad man then. I wasn't aware that he was a bad philosopher though. The book makes it out like he's one of the more important ones, but then there's always a bias huh?
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