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Chili · 01-20-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Gibson

What makes you think that John was written to non believers, let alone non Jews?

Jeffrey

Probably because it is to Catholic

Chili · 01-20-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Clivedurdle

Revelation 21:1 >>
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea.

Just a change of vision is required to see this where now the sea is our intuit knowledge that at one time was hidden from our faculty of reason (TOL vs TOK).

Chili · 01-20-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mountainman

These letters are written in Greek. There are many
commentators who argue there are Hellenic motives
in Paul. Paul is a stooge. A literary plant. How many
of his letters, once thought of with the highest integrity,
are now classified as outright blatant forgeries?

How can people be so nieve?

Best wishes.

Pete Brown

So what? He was needed to manifest Peter who was the faith of Joseph the Jew.

Chili · 01-21-2008, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewcriddle

[What the image of a resurrection means is unclear, it might refer to some ritual of symbolic death and rebirth undergone by Mithraic initiates but Per Benkow (in Tertullian on Mithras pps 51-60 of Studies in Mithraism 1994 edited by Hinnells) suggests that Tertullian may have (mis)interpreted the idea of Mithras as born from the rock as a parody of Christ rising from the tomb.

Andrew Criddle

Same thing. Rock means Truth and if one is an ark builder he is also a tomb hewer in the Truth retained and that will be the place wherein the ego is buried on the other side of this life when the ark finds new land (not all do).

The error here is that Christ was set free when Jesus died and Jesus rose from the death to be with Christ again, first as Christ Jesus and later as Jesus Christ.

Chili · 01-21-2008, 05:24 AM

. . . and Christianity is a curse that is based of the false Gospel of James and Cephas in the same way that Gnostic can never be an -ism, wherefore Catholics are not Christians and never will be except in the Church Triumphant and even there they are still Catholic by name. To think otherwise is to deny the firstborn with a tomb of his own.

Chili · 01-21-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Gibson

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Originally Posted by schilling.klaus

this is an Antimarcionite lie by Roman Catholic propagandists
and manipulators that holds no value.

And you know this for a fact how?

Jeffrey

He must have been a Jew if he was a tax collecter meaning that he was infamous as Jew and thereby a persecutor of Judaism (we would call it a lost sheep or prodigal son which requires 'sonship' first).

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Chili Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 11,885	. . . and Christianity is a curse that is based of the false Gospel of James and Cephas in the same way that Gnostic can never be an -ism, wherefore Catholics are not Christians and never will be except in the Church Triumphant and even there they are still Catholic by name. To think otherwise is to deny the firstborn with a tomb of his own.

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