Solitary Man

Many black people commit crimes. Should we lock up all of them? Are you even capable of putting forth an argument that's not riddled with logical deficiencies?

Minimalist

Such as locking up all blacks? Is that an example of your "logic?"

Where is the study by "historians" in which they voted on whether or not "jesus" was real? Learn to sniff out fundie propaganda, will you?

Just because some xtian writes something does not make it true.

Solitary Man

No, it's your logic taken to the logical extreme.

So atheist and agnostic historians or genuine Classicists like Will Durant and Michael Grant are fundy propagandists now, are they?

I'd be more willing to bet on an educated Christian who's open with his beliefs than someone who has absolutely no education in the matter who makes it clear his willingness to disregard everything Christians say (aka you).

youngalexander

Apa-poly-logies a for fend SM but you rather let yourself into this:

Conditionally, but only if we catch them, and convict them under Law!

Solitary Man

So you're saying we should catch all black people and try them at court just because other black people commit crimes?

Using the same logic, why don't we catch and lock up everyone since someone with similar features to everyone has committed crimes.

Minimalist ignores what Christians say because some Christians lie. Some atheists lie, so do we all get to ignore Minimalist?

spin advocates similar logic with his whole "Christian hegemony" baloney.

youngalexander

All of those that commit crimes.

As for Christians they are all deluded, which particular subset should we take notice of and what are the criteria for this choice?

Solitary Man

I'm glad to know that you are biased against Christians and that you also let it affect your dealings with the subject. :down:

Yellum Notnef

Would you not say belief in Jesus as god is deluded? Or do you have an alternate more sensitive term for it?

Solitary Man

Misled? Or should I also proclaim that those who believe that Jesus never existed are also deluded? They're both equally wrong.

patcleaver

Delusion infers that a belief is not based on evidence. You could have a delusion that was in fact true.

I would say that all religious beliefs are delusions, but that various secular theories about how Christianity developed could be wrong.