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Old 08-09-2007, 07:12 AM   #1
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Has the biblical flood ever been disproven? My mom's making me do this question in my history book, 'Why did God send the flood? Tell your view and why you hold it.'. I want to say it was a natural disaster, but I don't know what evidence there is against it.
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There have been countless floods in and before history. None of them was the global flood fancifully described in Hebrew mythology. Such an event is completely implausible, contradictory to everything we know about science, and there is zero evidence for any such thing.

Check out this "debate" if you want more details.
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Unfortunately, according to her profile KittyKatBlack is only 15 - and is having to answer "history" questions that her mother has set as part of her homeschooling that presume a flood.

I would guess that any truthful answer (such as "There was no flood") will be rejected and may result in discipline, rather than being praised as it should be. The question is looking for a theological answer rather than a factual one.

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Where shall I start?

Impossible thermodynamic exchanges during the evaporation and condensation phases in the so-called "vapour canopy" model resulting in wildly oscillating Earth temperatures that would have first frozen and then fried all life out of existence?

The continued existence of whole swathes of aquatic taxa that would have been exterminated wholesale (corals in particular, which are notoriously fussy about environmental conditions) if the mythical flood had ever taken place?

Complete absence of any geological evidence for a global flood despite the fact that sixteenth century geologists deliberately went looking for it, some of whom were intent on trying to prove the veracity of the flood claim and dropped all notions of the flood ever having been real when the rocks told a different story?

Here is a huge list of objections based upon sound scientific knowledge that more or less wraps it up for the flood.
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Unfortunately, according to her profile KittyKatBlack is only 15 - and is having to answer questions that her mother has set as part of her homeschooling.

I would guess that any truthful answer (such as "There was no flood") will be rejected and may result in discipline, rather than being praised as it should be.

KittyKatBlack - does your mother know that you are agnostic?
Oops, didn't see this.

Leave or retract? Please advise.
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Has the biblical flood ever been disproven? My mom's making me do this question in my history book, 'Why did God send the flood? Tell your view and why you hold it.'. I want to say it was a natural disaster, but I don't know what evidence there is against it.
Actually, there is absolutely no evidence FOR it, as certain discussions with some particular member(s) here will clearly demonstrate to you.

On the contrary, there is "mounds" (to use AFDave's fav word) of evidence, from a wide range of different scientific diciplines, all corroborating on the fact that the Earth is billions of years old. 4.6 billions, to be exact.

Stick around, and you'll get to see thetrainwreck of Young Earth Creationism yourself. There's quite a few ongoing threads where this is evident...

As to your question, and if you really have to write this, well... all I know is what I would say:

"I honestly don't know why God would send a global Flood. If mankind was sinful and wicked for the most part, it would be easy for him to simply destroy all the wicked ones in a blink of an eye. He did so with the firstborn in Egypt later, and he was also able to spontaneously twist the minds of every person on Earth to speak a different language, so why not simply kill all the evil ones and let the few righteous take over, without havng to destroy his whole creation to do it?
It doesn't make sense. It's all moot anyway, though, since, as all evidence shows, there never was a global Flood."

And that's about it. Granted that, if you are in a Bible college or somewhere like that, this could get you into trouble. Why do you have to write such an essay in a history class, anyway?
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Has the biblical flood ever been disproven? My mom's making me do this question in my history book, 'Why did God send the flood? Tell your view and why you hold it.'. I want to say it was a natural disaster, but I don't know what evidence there is against it.
Well, the best answer I can come up with is:
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According to the only known text said to have a specific account of "The Great Flood" denotes that God saw that mankind was being wicked. God wanted to blot mankind from the earth, and choose only to save one family, that of a righteous Noah. This idea is again reinforced right after the Flood, when God notes, while lamenting punishing the entire world for man's faults, from childhood to adulthood mankind has evil in their hearts.

Due to the nature of the flood, there is no other historical record of the event, so the exact acts that led to 'The Great Flood' are entirely unknown.
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Has the biblical flood ever been disproven? My mom's making me do this question in my history book, 'Why did God send the flood? Tell your view and why you hold it.'. I want to say it was a natural disaster, but I don't know what evidence there is against it.


As has been posted the Short answer is no ... however you might want simply do a google or other search on Black Sea Flood, Flood Myths, etc.


To follow up on Dean Anderson posts .. If your mother is expecting an answer based on the Bible (Why did God send the flood? :huh: ) there are lots of sites that detail the Jewish and Christian theological views.

If you were just asking a general question to the posters here, My answer is I do not believe in the biblical account for the simple reason of NO real evidence has been found (see Calilasseia's post).

And welcome hope you find answers to many of your questions
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Oh.

I missed the part about your mother making you do it.

I hope you will find any answers you need in this forum, in order to form your own opinion on this. In the meantime, I guess you need to say what you really believe in in your essay, provided this will not cause you trouble.
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Unfortunately, according to her profile KittyKatBlack is only 15 - and is having to answer "history" questions that her mother has set as part of her homeschooling that presume a flood.

I would guess that any truthful answer (such as "There was no flood") will be rejected and may result in discipline, rather than being praised as it should be. The question is looking for a theological answer rather than a factual one.

KittyKatBlack - does your mother know that you are agnostic?
Actually most of my close family members know, but I think they're in denial at the moment. I don't think I'd get in trouble if I backed it up with evidence.
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