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Old 11-26-2011, 10:43 PM   #1
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Default James in "Antiquities" is NOT James the Lord's Brother.

The "rug" has been completely pulled from the feeble legs of the HJ argument. Inadvertently, the Church writers have already provided statements to show that James of Antiquities 20.9.1 could NOT be James the Lord's brother in Galatians 1.19.

In "Antiquities of the Jews" 20.9.1, James was STONED to death at around 62 CE when Albinus was just preparing to go to Judea as procurator.

Albinus was procurator of Judea from 62-64 CE.

But, now in the Preface to the Recognitions it is claimed Clement wrote an Epistle to James the Lord's Brother AFTER Peter the Apostle was dead.

According to the Church Peter the apostle died c 67-68 CE.

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....The epistle in which the same Clement, writing to James the Lord's brother, informs him of the death of Peter, and that he had left him his successor in his chair and teaching, and in which also the whole subject of church order is treated....
The HJ argument is now hopeless.

James of Antiquities DEAD at 62 CE.

James the Lord's brother ALIVE at 67-68 CE.
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The "rug" has been completely pulled from the feeble legs of the HJ argument. Inadvertently, the Church writers have already provided statements to show that James of Antiquities 20.9.1 could NOT be James the Lord's brother in Galatians 1.19.

In "Antiquities of the Jews" 20.9.1, James was STONED to death at around 62 CE when Albinus was just preparing to go to Judea as procurator.

Albinus was procurator of Judea from 62-64 CE.

But, now in the Preface to the Recognitions it is claimed Clement wrote an Epistle to James the Lord's Brother AFTER Peter the Apostle was dead.

According to the Church Peter the apostle died c 67-68 CE.

The Preface to Recognitions"
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....The epistle in which the same Clement, writing to James the Lord's brother, informs him of the death of Peter, and that he had left him his successor in his chair and teaching, and in which also the whole subject of church order is treated....
The HJ argument is now hopeless.

James of Antiquities DEAD at 62 CE.

James the Lord's brother ALIVE at 67-68 CE.
According to which 'church' did Peter the apostle die in c 67-68?

Can you cite sources for your claims please?

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According to which 'church' did Peter the apostle die in c 67-68?

Can you cite sources for your claims please?

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Please read "Church History" 3.

Church History" 3.2
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1. After the martyrdom of Paul and of Peter, Linus was the first to obtain the episcopate of the church at Rome........
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After Vespasian had reigned ten years Titus, his son, succeeded him. In the second year of his reign, Linus, who had been bishop of the church of Rome for twelve years, delivered his office to Anencletus.....
Based on "Church History", Peter was martyred around 67-68 CE.
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Can you cite sources for your claims please?
The problem with aa is not lack of sources. He nearly always has sources. His problem is his free-form stream-of-consciousness interpretation of his sources.
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Can you cite sources for your claims please?
The problem with aa is not lack of sources. He nearly always has sources. His problem is his free-form stream-of-consciousness interpretation of his sources.
Did they not bury him face down to show that he was historical with heaven now made manifest in Rome?
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Can you cite sources for your claims please?
The problem with aa is not lack of sources. He nearly always has sources. His problem is his free-form stream-of-consciousness interpretation of his sources.
Your statement is utterly absurd. You have NOT identified any error in my position that James in "Antiquities" is NOT James the Lord's Brother.

Your invention of the term "free-form stream-of-consciousness interpretation" is unheard of and is ambiguous nonsense.

Please, tell me what kind of interpretation was used to claim Jesus was crucified in the SUB-LUNAR?


Now, My theories are developed using the WRITTEN STATEMENTS found in SOURCES of antiquity.

1. In "Church History" 3, it is written that Linus was bishop c 67-68 AFTER the martyrdom of Peter or at the end of the reign of Nero.

2. In the "Preface to the Recognitions", it is claimed Clement wrote to James the Lord's brother AFTER the death of Peter.

3. In "Antiquities of the Jews" 20.9.1, a character called James was stoned to death at c 62 CE or at the time Albinus was made procurator of Judea.

Based on those WRITTEN STATEMENTS from SOURCES of antiquity, James in "Antiquities" is NOT James the Lord's brother.
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In "Antiquities of the Jews" 20.9.1, a character called James was stoned to death at c 62 CE or at the time Albinus was made procurator of Judea.

Based on those WRITTEN STATEMENTS from SOURCES of antiquity, James in "Antiquities" is NOT James the Lord's brother.
Do you think maybe that those stones we tidbits of truth that killed the ideal of James and so converted him by Inquisition? or do you actually believe that stone throwing was done to settle arguments in those days.
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