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Sheshonq · 01-30-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by arnoldo

Yes Alexander the Great destroyed Tyre.

1. No, not really.

2. Tyre rebuilt from the damage in less than 20 years and became a regional economic superpowr again.

Prophecy fails! :rolling: :rolling:

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How could Nebby attack an island? Alexander used the rubble from tyre to build a mole to the island.

You're the one claiming that Babylon had no military equipment to launch an attack on the island. Let's see your proof.

Sheshonq · 01-30-2008, 12:50 PM

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They didn't. They controlled all the close ones. This means just to get water one would have to journey for several days. The same for food. Tyre's 13 year endurance is certainly impressive.

spin

I can agree with you with that point. But at the end of the 13 years Nebby broke into the city.

No he didn't. He only took the mainland colonies. He never took the city.

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Unfortunately all of the wealth of the city was taken to the island.

Uh, wrong. The island was where the wealth was in the first place.

arnoldo · 01-30-2008, 12:51 PM

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How so?

I guess I have to spell it out for you. :banghead:

1) The mainland was originally called something other than "Tyre"

2) Tyre continues to exist today

You have argued against both of these and your reference denies them both. :thumbs:

check post #576

Sheshonq · 01-30-2008, 12:54 PM

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I guess I have to spell it out for you. :banghead:

1) The mainland was originally called something other than "Tyre"

2) Tyre continues to exist today

You have argued against both of these and your reference denies them both. :thumbs:

check post #576

Your post #576 was shot down by my post 599.

Results say: Prophecy fails! :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

Johnny Skeptic · 01-30-2008, 12:54 PM

Message to arnoldo: Why doesn't God ever make indisputable prophecies? His refusal to make indisputable predictions does not benefit him or anyone else, and needlessly invites dissent instead of discouraging dissent. No reasonable motives = no God of the Bible.

If God had done his job properly, there would not have been any need for anyone to waste time debating prophecy.

Darklighter · 01-30-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by arnoldo

Yes Alexander the Great destroyed Tyre. How could Nebby attack an island? Alexander used the rubble from tyre to build a mole to the island.

I love your logic... "Nebby attacked and defeated Tyre, but didn't defeat Tyre. They of course didn't rebuild because that would invalidate prophecy. Then Alex comes along and defeats Tyre again which was never rebuilt. Then he takes the ruins of Tyre to build a bridge to get to Tyre. Then he destroys but doesn't destroy Tyre again. Then the residents rebuilt Tyre, but it's not really Tyre, because Tyre could never be rebuilt. Tyre no longer exists even though it does. Thus, prophecy was fulfilled!"

arnoldo · 01-30-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheshonq

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Originally Posted by arnoldo

Yes Alexander the Great destroyed Tyre.

1. No, not really.

2. Tyre rebuilt from the damage in less than 20 years and became a regional economic superpowr again.

Sorry, it was destroyed again by Antigonus ( hence, many nations). Trade eventually went to Alexandria instead of Tyre.

Amaleq13 · 01-30-2008, 12:55 PM

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[B]This thread is like watching Mike Tyson spar with Goldilocks. Can anyone give me a reason not to close it?

No. It has become clear that arnoldo is refusing to give any actual thought to the evidence presented and has been reduced to repeating foolish questions that do nothing but waste time and bandwidth.

Sheshonq · 01-30-2008, 12:58 PM

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1. No, not really.

2. Tyre rebuilt from the damage in less than 20 years and became a regional economic superpowr again.

Sorry, it was destroyed again by Antigonus ( hence, many nations).

1. No, it was not destroyed by Antigonus.

2. Many nations" refers to the Babylonian army.

3. The prophecy said that it would be destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar and not recover. Yet you are caught red-handed admitting that it recovered after Babylon, and also recovered after Alexander.

Results say: Prophecy fails! :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

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Trade eventually went to Alexandria instead of Tyre.

Wrong.

arnoldo · 01-30-2008, 12:59 PM

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Why did Tyre think it could withstand an attack against Alexander the Great if Nebby had no problems defeating them?

Stupid question.

Nebuchadnezzar's siege of the island took 13 years. And even then it resulted in a draw, not a win, for Babylon.

That suggests that Tyre was entirely justified in believing it could hold off Alexander.

Obviously it never occured to Tyre that Alexander would build a mole to defeat it. And you are arguing that Nebby waged siege against an ISLAND for 13 years??????????? Why didn't Nebby build a mole? :wave:

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