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However, you make a good point in saying that the Bible may not be telling me about the real God and some other source may do so. I will accept that as a valid hypothesis. However, I think we can start with the Bible as a beginning point and then look at the other religious documents and make a decision about which to follow. We can address everything that we can find. Let’s consider the argument for Tartarus. Is there anything in the religious documents telling us about Tartarus that should be considered as evidence for rejecting the Bible and accepting the Tartarus douments? There seem to be few people who embrace Tartarus or who are making a big deal about Tartarus as if he is something. If no one else gets excited about Tartarus, why should we? Quote:
The Wager starts out with the position that a person is uncertain that eternal torment is real. He has two choices, do something about his uncertainty by seeking a way to escape eternal torment or do nothing. At this point in the decision process, the do nothing approach (unbelief and indifference) accomplishes nothing and is to be rejected (unbelief and indifference also contradict the uncertainty that the person has - is he uncertain or not?). The person applies the Wager and determines that he should seek to escape eternal torment. At this point in the decision process, the Wager is laid aside because it has accomplished its purpose, and the person begins to seek a way to escape eternal torment. It is here that indifference and unbelief are offered to him as two possible ways to escape eternal torment. He considers these along with all the other gods/beliefs that also are alleged to provide an escape from eternal torment. There is no capitulation or change in my argument. I have maintained this position consistently through this thread. |
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The "unique compilation of documents" could apply to other texts, religious or otherwise. |
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I agree that the "unique compilation of documents" could apply to other texts, religious or otherwise. Again, I don't see those arguments being made for other texts in the religious venue. |
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However, if you were to then argue that the Biblical God does not exist, you would have to employ circular reasoning to make that argument. |
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Can't say fairer than that, can I :huh: |
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