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Old 12-26-2008, 11:59 AM   #451
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Now you're the one being dishonest. You utterly failed to respond to this. Would you like to try again?


"And if a man smite the eye of his BONDMAN, or the eye of his BONDWOMAN; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake." JPS the Jewish bible

Which doesn't answer the question at all, so I'll ask it again:

if slavery was immoral, then why was slavery even permitted in the first place?


I think you should ask Allah that question.....why did Muslims brutally force people into slavery in the name of Allah? Why were they involved in the African slave trade? Why do they continue this brutality even today? Israel bought their slaves while Islam truely forced and forces people into slavery.


And yet you a Muslim attacks the God of the bible? What hypocrisy.....there is definately not a god on earth as brutal and evil as "Allah."



Why don't you point out his faults? Im very curious now.
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Which doesn't answer the question at all, so I'll ask it again:

if slavery was immoral, then why was slavery even permitted in the first place?


I think you should ask Allah that question
I think you should stop trying to distract everyone from your inability to answer the question. Shall I ask it again? I can make the font size bigger if you're having problems reading it.
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I think you should ask Allah that question
I think you should stop trying to distract everyone from your inability to answer the question. Shall I ask it again? I can make the font size bigger if you're having problems reading it.
But why should you ask the God of the bible this question when your own Muslim brothers not only still practices FORCED SLAVERY, GENOCIDE, AND TERRORISM WHICH ALLAH SMILES UPON?



This isnt distraction i am now pointing out hypocrisy of the worst kind.


Readers, how can a Muslim (of all people) attack the God of the bible? Don't you see the hypocrisy in that.....as all knows Allah is perhaps (next to Satan) the most bloodiest god of all time.
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Readers, how can a Muslim (of all people) attack the God of the bible? Don't you see the hypocrisy in that.....as all knows Allah is perhaps (next to Satan) the most bloodiest god of all time.
This is true.
But how much are they really different?
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Jesus Christ what a mess! Now I know why you want someone to clean your toilet, lol.

[QUOTE=sschlichter;5717335]I'm trying to clarify it, so thanks. Why weren't the serf/slaves in Deuteronomy 20:!!, H4522 [lol], being rehabilitated?

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They were enemies of war. They were being made subjects due to the loss in a battle. India was a subject of the British Empire. This, in and of itself is not immoral. It depends on the treatment.

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That was sarcasm, sschlichter and obviously a chance for you to avoid how you stretch Exodus 22:3 about theft to cover Leviticus 25:49, lol.


Ex 22 explained how someone gets themselves into slavery. Lev 25:49 makes it clear that a slave can have possessions, can make money, and can purchase himself out of slavery. A theif (later reformed) could choose both of those paths.



so, is that a yes, that repetitive murder is moral grounds for a lifetime of imprisonment?


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They were enemies of war. They were being made subjects due to the loss in a battle. India was a subject of the British Empire. This, in and of itself is not immoral. It depends on the treatment.
lol, both are immoral.


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Ex 22 explained how someone gets themselves into slavery.
A punishment for theft by an Israeli... but they are sold if they can't pay back what they stole double.
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Lev 25:49 makes it clear that a slave can have possessions, can make money, and can purchase himself out of slavery. A theif (later reformed) could choose both of those paths.
Leviticus 25:49 is talking about an Israeli who ,in Leviticus 25:47 has sold himself to a rich foreigner or the rich foreigner's clan, not a thief, lol.
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so, is that a yes, that repetitive murder is moral grounds for a lifetime of imprisonment?
Maybe....

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Question? The laws for injured slaves does that encourage or discourages abuse?
Most likely both. Some slaves were set free with one eye or a tooth missing, and some immoral slave owners lost an eye or tooth rather then set the slave free.
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The law for runaway slaves does not tell us what slaves it says slaves.
No but OT scholars say it means foreign slaves, of course you will disagree with scholars of the OT, when it sinks your arguement.
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Also why would a foreign slave escape from a harsh slave system
Where does it say they escaped because they were being treated harshly?

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to another system which critics says also "forces non hebrews into slavery?"
I'm a critic, but I don't recall saying that the immoral Israeli slave system forced non Hebrews into slavery, just the ones that couldn't kick their ass, lol.

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That also destroys your argument that Israel forced non hebrews into slavery.
Good, you have destroyed another strawman, sugarstrawman, lol, because I never said that Israel forced every non Hebrew into slavery, just the ones that they bought or could kick their asses.
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Wheres my apology....im waiting.
Didn't you read that I said it was sarcasm that I owed you an apology when sschlichter avoided answering why he was stretching?

Don't worry sugar, you will always be #1 wit da bullet to me, lol.
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I think you should stop trying to distract everyone from your inability to answer the question. Shall I ask it again? I can make the font size bigger if you're having problems reading it.
But why should you ask
More attempts at distraction - not working. The question you're running from, one more time:

if slavery was immoral, then why was slavery even permitted in the first place?
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Readers, how can a Muslim (of all people) attack the God of the bible? Don't you see the hypocrisy in that.....as all knows Allah is perhaps (next to Satan) the most bloodiest god of all time.
This is true.
But how much are they really different?
It doesn't matter; sugarhitman's question is only an attempt to change the subject, since he's clearly unable to answer my question about why the bible tolerates and even promotes an immoral act like slavery.

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But why should you ask
More attempts at distraction - not working. The question you're running from, one more time:

if slavery was immoral, then why was slavery even permitted in the first place?
And a logical response would be:


How can a Muslim even ask that question when their system STILL forces people into slavery in the name of ALLAH? Israel system was Voluntary with laws protecting slaves Islam has no such laws.


In otherwords how can a follower of a Sadistic barbaric belief accuse the God of Israel as evil?


Sheshong you and your hypocrisy has been discoverd.
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This is true.
But how much are they really different?
It doesn't matter; sugarhitman's question is only an attempt to change the subject, since he's clearly unable to answer my question about why the bible tolerates and even promotes an immoral act like slavery.

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No what I am saying you of all people is not in the position to ask such questions when Allah not only supports FORCED SLAVERY but Terrorism as well.
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More attempts at distraction - not working. The question you're running from, one more time:

if slavery was immoral, then why was slavery even permitted in the first place?
And a logical response would be:
No, that is a distraction that you hope will make readers forget that you still haven't answered this question. Shall I ask it again?

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