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GenesisNemesis · 08-07-2006, 11:47 PM

Hebrews 13:5 ... Did Jesus say this before or after the ressurection? Ty. "Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

"My God, My God, why have You forsaken me"

miniverchivi · 08-08-2006, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by One_Of_Logic

Hebrews 13:5 ... Did Jesus say this before or after the ressurection? Ty. "Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

"My God, My God, why have You forsaken me"

I really think that these two events aren't close enough in context to consider them a contradiction....

There are much better contradictions of the NT to discuss....like the fact that although Matthew, Mark, and Luke all wrote eyewitness accounts of the crucifixtion, while John says that himself and Peter we're the only two there out of the elite 12.

Who's lying???

ggazoo · 08-08-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by miniverchivi

There are much better contradictions of the NT to discuss....like the fact that although Matthew, Mark, and Luke all wrote eyewitness accounts of the crucifixtion, while John says that himself and Peter we're the only two there out of the elite 12.

Where exactly does it say that? John's account of the crucifixtion makes no mention of Peter that I can recall.

mdarus · 08-08-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by miniverchivi

I really think that these two events aren't close enough in context to consider them a contradiction....

There are much better contradictions of the NT to discuss....like the fact that although Matthew, Mark, and Luke all wrote eyewitness accounts of the Crucifixion, while John says that himself and Peter we're the only two there out of the elite 12.

Who's lying???

I don't find anywhere that Matthew, Mark, or Luke claim to be eyewitnesses to the crucifixion. All three admit they were not there.

mdarus · 08-08-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by One_Of_Logic

Hebrews 13:5 ... Did Jesus say this before or after the ressurection? Ty. "Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

"My God, My God, why have You forsaken me"

This is pretty close:

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Matt 28:19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

The timing on this is after the crucifixtion and moments before the ascension.

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