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Vorkosigan · 04-03-2005, 07:02 PM

Mark Goodacre's excellent NT weblog points to BBC show on the family of Jesus.

An interview with the fella doing the research is here

http://www.diversityinbusiness.com/d...TBurroughs.htm

Should be full of great revelations with an attitude like this:

None of the traditional genealogical sources existed, like living family members who could be interviewed, vital records of birth marriage and death, census records, and probate records. But most importantly, there were no records that existed at the time the events occurred.

Genealogists, and lawyers who are involved with court cases, always search for the best available evidence, that is, documents created at the time events occur by someone who has or had direct knowledge of those events. That type of documentation is referred to as primary evidence. Secondary evidence are documents created after events occur, by someone who may or may not witness the events. There are often errors in secondary evidence.

Records pertaining to Jesus' family were created fifty to four hundred years after those events occurred.

The various early Christian writings are records?

Vorkosigan

Chili · 04-03-2005, 07:43 PM

Interesting! I think they found a real live one for the job:

Quote:

I pinched myself every day to see if I was dreaming. I traveled to places I never thought I would go to, and saw things I never imagined I would have seen.

Now I had heard that he travelled Israel where he visited

Quote:

a Jewish family in a small village in the Galilee region - a family that is supposed to have lived there for 2,000 years.

The name of this town remains a trade secret but this family has relatives living in England today.

Anat · 04-03-2005, 11:37 PM

I suppose it's the Zinati<sp?> family from Peqi'in.

rlogan · 04-03-2005, 11:55 PM

The History Channel and a couple of others have had specials on recently regarding Junior and the "real" scoop too. I can't watch them long. You guys have ruined me.

Makes me wonder about a lot of the other "research" they're doing when so little critical thinking goes on in this arena.

Toto · 04-04-2005, 12:07 AM

No Desposynoi?

Goodacre's blog indicates that he was interviewed.

This seems to be the web page for the show: Jesus but the material all looks dated.

blogger comment

Quote:

. . . .Many experts were interviewed for the special - and the acting is first rate. I have no idea how much the Discovery Channel paid for all this, but it certainly wasn’t done cheaply.

Throughout the evening, the program kept going back to Tony - sitting at a laptop in a very high-tech setting. Computer-generated pedigree charts and interviews eminating from on-screen computer graphics added to the futuristic aspects of this program dealing with events which took place 2000 years ago.

. . . .

Vorkosigan · 04-04-2005, 01:21 AM

From the blog above

Quote:

The program then dealt with more extended family - namely John, the Baptist.

04-03-2005, 07:02 PM	#1
Vorkosigan Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Barrayar Posts: 11,866	BBC has show The Real Family of Jesus: low scholarship should be high comedy Mark Goodacre's excellent NT weblog points to BBC show on the family of Jesus. An interview with the fella doing the research is here http://www.diversityinbusiness.com/d...TBurroughs.htm Should be full of great revelations with an attitude like this: None of the traditional genealogical sources existed, like living family members who could be interviewed, vital records of birth marriage and death, census records, and probate records. But most importantly, there were no records that existed at the time the events occurred. Genealogists, and lawyers who are involved with court cases, always search for the best available evidence, that is, documents created at the time events occur by someone who has or had direct knowledge of those events. That type of documentation is referred to as primary evidence. Secondary evidence are documents created after events occur, by someone who may or may not witness the events. There are often errors in secondary evidence. Records pertaining to Jesus' family were created fifty to four hundred years after those events occurred. The various early Christian writings are records? Vorkosigan

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Anat Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: home Posts: 3,715	I suppose it's the Zinati<sp?> family from Peqi'in.

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rlogan Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,159	The History Channel and a couple of others have had specials on recently regarding Junior and the "real" scoop too. I can't watch them long. You guys have ruined me. Makes me wonder about a lot of the other "research" they're doing when so little critical thinking goes on in this arena.

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